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To: rellimpank

I have mixed feelings . . .

But having worked in alcoholism rehab for a year in my PhD program . . .

I wonder if the author would feel the same way if

the author had lost all their children, spouse and parents to a drunk driver in a horrific crash with fire and agonizingly burned bodies that did not die instantly but over hours.

One fellow court ordered into our program . . . had had

8 as in EIGHT drunk driving arrests

PRIOR to the 9th which resulted in his being court ordered into our program.

In 2 of those 8—there was bodily injury—one of the times to himself as well as his victims.

The first thing out of his mouth in our group session was:

I DON’T NEED TO BE HERE. !!! —>I<— !!! DON’T HAVE AN ALCOHOL PROBLEM!!!

The group as a whole was aghast, thankfully. The idiot got an ear full very quickly FROM OTHER ALCOHOLICS.


183 posted on 08/07/2007 8:40:36 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: All
To those that would support this.

These 4 guys are out camping in the middle of nowhere, they don't plan on leaving for 2 more days. They are having good time, fishing, drinking beer etc...Winds pickup, and wammo, massive wildfire moving fast...All are found dead two days later, burned to death. Keys were still in the ignition, one was found behind the wheel.

There are literally thousand of other scenarios where people would be injured or killed if not able to start their vehicle immediately.

184 posted on 08/07/2007 8:44:14 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Quix
I wonder if the author would feel the same way if the author had lost all their children, spouse and parents to a drunk driver in a horrific crash with fire and agonizingly burned bodies that did not die instantly but over hours.

Conservatives believe in personal responsibility and harsh criminal justice for those who violate their right to freedom. Progressives believe in social engineering and foregiveness and understanding for the poor drunk idiot who mowed down a family in an SUV because he is just a hapless "victim" of society and the billions of advertising dollars spent every year by "Big Alcohol" to glorify drinking with bikini clad women and MADE him drink 30 beers in the smoke free bar.

What side are you on?

196 posted on 08/07/2007 8:57:03 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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