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County courtroom erupts (Murder victim's father dives across table, attempts to strangle perp)
Herald Star ^ | August 7, 2007 | Mark Law

Posted on 08/07/2007 11:46:25 AM PDT by Stoat

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To: Vinnie
He/she won’t live to serve the sentence.

Not that I would suggest anything, but I think it would be much more just for the perp to spend many, many years behind bars, then catch a bullet 30 minutes after his release.

That, or be put up in a house next door to either the judge who sentenced him to such a short term, or the board members who let him out early. Or both.

61 posted on 08/07/2007 9:24:05 PM PDT by Stegall Tx (Not that I would actually DO such a thing...)
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To: Stoat

This is a good example of why we should discuss legalizing drugs. Buying drugs is not a criminal act, it is only temporarily illegal. Harmful to the user, absolutely. But criminal in itself, certainly not.

The victim was trying to enter into a contractual agreement, as an adult and with other adults, to purchase (I will presume with his own hard-earned money) a substance that will probably hurt nobody except himself (if at all).

Drugs are available everywhere. They are available in our schools, in our prisons, even in the military. They are available in back alleys. Millions (probably billions) of dollars in black money changes hands every day by people who live their entire lives outside of the law, completely unregulated and sold to anyone of any age.

We need to discuss establishing some way to regulate and control the trade of substances that are everywhere. Jail time is not a deterrent against selling or buying these substances. Even the possibility of death is obviously not enough of a deterrent for sellers and users. We need to reschedule drugs such as marijuana and “magic” mushrooms immediately so that these substances are no longer for sale next to much more dangerous drugs like cocaine, heroin, and methamphetamines.

We need to recognize that the drug war can never be won by fighting it from the supply side, and that by doing so enlarges and empowers government while eroding many of the Constitutional liberties enjoyed by citizens not involved in any capacity of the drug trade.

It is my prayer that this man’s family can find peace and justice, and that Americans can begin a dialog that will help our young people make positive life choices and end the harm caused both by substance abuse, and the temporary illegality of these substances.


62 posted on 08/07/2007 9:35:32 PM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: Ptarmigan
Ebola is painful to have the disease. I like watching them wither in pain. :)

I understand; but we'd need to make sure that you have a VERY protective isolation suit if you want to watch up close   :-)

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63 posted on 08/07/2007 9:39:01 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Lazamataz

Hi Laz, I’m glad to see you left NY! You probably remember me from an old screen name, but we used to chat about Rochester related stuff.

Anyways, hope you’re well.


64 posted on 08/07/2007 9:39:24 PM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: Stoat

Haven’t seen the video (I tried), but why is it that I can only guess the race of the perps..........

It’s all so predictable nowdays.


65 posted on 08/07/2007 9:50:25 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Vinnie

“I have given this situation some thought and if I’m ever in the gallery, watching the murderer of my relative sitting before me I have a solution.”

“Relative” includes a sister-in-law, a nephew, an uncle. This was the CHILD of this guy. No one could really condemn the guy for any action he chose to take, whether in the throes of agony or with pre-meditation.


66 posted on 08/07/2007 10:10:34 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: RightOnline
 
Haven’t seen the video (I tried), but why is it that I can only guess the race of the perps..........

It’s all so predictable nowdays.

 

I'm very sorry to hear that you had trouble with the video....I just now tried it again and it plays fine on the stoatputer.  A couple of things that I'm thinking may be a problem....did you click on the little blue bar on the page immediately below the article's date that says "play video"?  The thumbnail photo image on that page is not a video link, it is only a picture.  If you clicked the little blue "play video" bar and it doesn't open up a player in a new window, I'm thinking that there may be a firewall on your system or network that is blocking it. Turning off the firewall, playing the video and then turning the firewall back on again after the video is over may be one approach.

Alternatively, there are several other TV "News" websites that are hosting that video, so if you do a search for important names within the article (such as "Antonio Clifford") you may be able to find other pages hosting the video that will play on your system.

And no, the video doesn't show a clear picture of the perps....it only shows the father clearly, and he is white.

 

 

 

67 posted on 08/07/2007 10:12:33 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
She said Joshua Sweat was a two-time national motocross champion.

Joshua Ryan Sweat, 28, of 123 Sherwood Road, Weirton, came to Steubenville on July 29, 2006, looking to buy drugs, county Assistant Prosecutor Jane Keenan said.

Analysis.

Hotshot motocross star attempts to buy narcotics at some dive bar and gets his head blown off.

Whoops, made the wrong choice.

68 posted on 08/07/2007 10:23:40 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: t_skoz
I will presume with his own hard-earned money.

I wonder who financed Jr's motocross adventures?

Mommy and Daddy maybe?

69 posted on 08/07/2007 10:27:10 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: Tx Angel

‘He may have been. I know many that smoke the occasional joint.’

This guy wasn’t killed over pot, and I have the same experiences you do in that regard.

Its almost impossible to find anyone thats ever been killed over pot, come to think of it.


70 posted on 08/08/2007 6:00:14 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Tx Angel

‘But how do you know that? After all, weed is supposedly the evil gateway drug.’

Uh huh, and milk is the ‘gateway liquid’ to alcoholism...(sarcasm)


71 posted on 08/08/2007 6:01:01 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Brucifer

I tried marijuana once. It made me crazy. I wanted to rob a bank and get into a high speed car chase and shootout with the cops. But then I couldn’t find my car keys, or the car... or even the front door.
I did find about a half gallon of chocolate ice cream in the refrigerator. All’s well that ends well.

lol


72 posted on 08/08/2007 6:05:00 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: driftdiver

“Debatable. Especially when you realize just how much crime, of all types, are traced back to them.”

Billions of dollars are spent fighting drugs. Those dollars are completely wasted except for putting many otherwise good people in prison. The ban on drugs has not decreased use and has bred crime and unconstitutional laws.

Perhaps we should question our government instead of saying this kid deserved what he got.

You mix irrelevant facts here. The kid screwed up.


73 posted on 08/08/2007 6:06:00 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: monday

‘He was two time national motocross champion. He clearly had some productive years and a family with kids and for all we know was very happy. Who are you to judge his life? You know virtually nothing about him.’

I know enough to make a comment. And sorry, this shying away from personal responsibility is a notion I can’t fathom.

I know lots of liberals that can, but thats not me.


74 posted on 08/08/2007 6:07:22 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Stoat

Politicians, are you listening? The public perceives that our “criminal justice” system is too lenient! Do you get that? Shape up or there will be more morally justified instances of the public doing what the “criminal justice” system doesn’t do.


75 posted on 08/08/2007 6:10:21 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Badeye

“You mix irrelevant facts here. The kid screwed up.”

Sure he screwed up. He didnt deserve to die and its not something to celebrate.


76 posted on 08/08/2007 8:32:17 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

Sure he screwed up. He didnt deserve to die and its not something to celebrate.

I never said he deserved to die, nor did I suggest a celebration, so I’ll take it you’ ve confused me with a poster that did.


77 posted on 08/08/2007 8:34:45 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Stoat

Isolating would be a good idea, so it won’t spread beyond the corridords.


78 posted on 08/08/2007 8:52:55 AM PDT by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: Stoat

I’m surprised this kind of stuff doesn’t happen more often. I think I’d have a hard time controlling myself in this situation. Can’t help being fiery, feisty me.


79 posted on 08/08/2007 8:54:40 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: hophead

I echo your sentiments. Not only do kids do bad things but we all do.


80 posted on 08/08/2007 8:56:07 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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