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Fred Thompson, the Second Coming of Ronald Reagan?
Fox News ^ | 6 Aug 07 | Mark Joesph

Posted on 08/06/2007 6:24:55 PM PDT by gobucks

(snip) Much has been made about whether or not Fred Thompson is the second coming of Ronald Reagan, and while it's clear that he's not, it's also becoming fairly clear that the oddly constructed coalition that Reagan built combining fiscal conservatives, defense hawks, libertarians, Evangelicals and working-class conservative Democrats is about to fall apart unless Thompson can reinvent it.

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Among those issues, of course, abortion is the major litmus test that Thompson will need to pass to win their support. And fortunately for the candidate, his lobbying on behalf of Planned Parenthood took place 17 years before his presidential run, not unlike Reagan, who 13 years before his own run had signed a therapeautic abortion law as governor of California.

In Reagan's case, evangelical voters accepted his explanation that he had been tricked by liberal legislators who had promised him that the law would allow for abortions only for serious medical conditions, when it in fact opened the way for a "health" exception that was subsequently interpreted broadly in its application.

Similarly, future Thompson voters are likely to accept a mea culpa from the candidate if it's straightforward and doesn't fudge. These are, after all, evangelical Christians for a reason, one of the central tenets of the faith being forgiveness for an act that is repented of and is in the past, preferably the distant past.

With his Evangelical base solidified, Thompson will then be able to secure his more natural constituencies — gun owners, "lunch pail" Democrats, country music fans, star-struck Law & Order viewers, and even elements of the entertainment industry who are unlikely to see him the same way they see other conservative candidates because of his star power.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fredsaloser; fredthompson
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To: Fast Ed97

And that’s my gripe with Thompson. He has no vision to bring to the game. He’s been at best vague in addressing important issues like immigration. And been vague as in more vague than other candidate out there.

He is a remarkable, compelling orator with a script. Not so great in an interview, but not bad, either. He seems pretty solidly conservative.

I just don’t think he has the spark of leadership. As he said, he has “never wanted to be President.” Spin that as you may, I can’t see that as anything but a negative.

Does he have the fight in him? Maybe. Maybe not. I was never overwhelmed by him as my Senator. That said, he’s pretty solid. We’ll see.


41 posted on 08/06/2007 7:06:16 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: ejonesie22

Got it!


42 posted on 08/06/2007 7:06:37 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Zimbabwe, leftist success story, the envy of Venezuela)
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To: Fast Ed97
There maybe one saving grace in all that. FDT is a very solid Federalist. He maybe more limited Government that you think.
44 posted on 08/06/2007 7:10:06 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I just play one on Free Republic. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: gondramB

I’ve been watching the whole mess w/ dismay; but we collectively get what we deserve. I can’t imagine someone like Reagan ever coming along again.

CSPAN recently had a new book review, discussing at great length his exploits as a lifeguard. But I can’t for the life of me remember the title.

(Great tag line, btw)


45 posted on 08/06/2007 7:10:31 PM PDT by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: gobucks
Fred Thompson is not the second coming of Ronald Reagan.

More media BS.

46 posted on 08/06/2007 7:11:54 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Global Warming is a cover story for Peak Oil.)
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To: Poser

>>>Sorry, but nobody’s interested before Thanksgiving. Fred is exactly right to not waste his money or time now.<<<

The Iowa Caucus is January 14. A failure to build a network of support across the country months before then is an almost guaranteed assurance of failure.

Traditionally, the Ames Straw Poll has served as a point at which the wagons began to circle around a select group of candidates.

Not only does Thompson’s failure to make an appearance hurt his own campaign, but it also hurts the party by leaving a grey cloud hanging over the horizon.

Even if Fred Thompson did take the Republican nomination, he’d do so at a disadvantage to the Dim nominee, who would have been building a nationwide network of support for well over a year.


47 posted on 08/06/2007 7:12:27 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: Fast Ed97
“If President, he will be another GWB and likely hold the line on Pro-Life, 2nd Amendment and judges, but continue to be indifferent or even adversarial to reducing government.”




That is nonsense. The only other candidates in the race who have a more consistent record than Fred on federalism and limited government are Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo. Fred has been on the losing end of multiple 99 - 1 votes in the Senate because he did not believe that the issue in question was within the jurisdiction of the federal government. This is an area where he has proved himself, in contrast to GWB, who ran as a big government conservative before he was even elected and had no record of taking a tough stand in support of limited government. When it comes to taking a tough stand in support of federalism, it does not get any better than being the lone hold out on numerous Senate votes where federalism was an issue. Fred has proved that he will defend the principles of federalism even when doing so is not popular and he will be the only one taking that stand. Very few politicians can say the same.

48 posted on 08/06/2007 7:12:38 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: gobucks

“Fred Thompson, the second coming of Reagan?”

UMM, NO.


49 posted on 08/06/2007 7:14:18 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (United States Constitution (1787-2007) RIP)
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To: Fast Ed97

Well, he’ll win for sure then if there is no 3rd party candidate, and Fred enters.

But I have to say, there will be a 3rd Party candidate for certain ... and I predict Hillary will win as a result. It was THE factor that caused Bill to win, and it will happen again.


50 posted on 08/06/2007 7:14:23 PM PDT by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: CheyennePress
>>>>He has no vision to bring to the game.

LOL Neither does Rooty, Romney or McCain. But FredT has knocked off a significant amount of Giuliani`s support. That is great news.

Now, chill out. If FredT decides not to run --- unlikely --- then its over. Otherwise, we'll all have plenty of time to see FredT in action. Whether he can build on his early momentum and garner the support of most conservatives, is what the primary season is all about. Patients is a virtue, especially in politics.

51 posted on 08/06/2007 7:16:19 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Navy Patriot
One other thing I left off. I was talking with a buddy who used to be in TV management because I knew there was something to all of this crap.

Syndication is different, they sell a set number of total episodes, not in any order, though that is preferred. So it is no real problem to pull the FDT episodes from a show like L&O since he has only been in it for a few season vs. total run. If he was a star in every episode ever made, they would have to pull it until Nov. 2008. As it is they only pull those episodes from the package and replace them.

52 posted on 08/06/2007 7:16:43 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I just play one on Free Republic. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: gobucks
If RR was still around he’d be kickin’ tail and telling people to be themselves and quit chasing ghosts.
53 posted on 08/06/2007 7:16:44 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: gobucks

The worse Republican candidate is better than the best
Democrat candidate


54 posted on 08/06/2007 7:19:25 PM PDT by SonnyBubba
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To: Pistolshot
...that there will only ever be one Ronald Reagan.

There are two Clintons.

55 posted on 08/06/2007 7:20:30 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: gobucks
Fred Thompson, the Second Coming of Ronald Reagan?

It took 4 years of the peanut farmer for the voters to recognize what Reagen stood for...and that was after he had lost the nomination to that powerhouse Gerald Ford 4 years earlier. I know what we have had since Reagan and our next contestant had better have kissed that Blarney Stone twice if we want to keep Clinton/Osama from destroying what remains of the USA.
56 posted on 08/06/2007 7:22:17 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: FreeReign

You just had to remind us didn’t you.;-)


57 posted on 08/06/2007 7:23:08 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I am not really a Fred basher, I just play one on Free Republic. THOMPSON 2008!)
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To: gobucks

I still think it will be an “October Surprise”!!!!!!!.....


58 posted on 08/06/2007 7:23:09 PM PDT by GitmoSailor (AZ Cold War Vet===Fairness Doctrine for TV First!!!!!.....I'Am With Fred)
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To: FreeReign

Who cares, ones a criminal the other is...well....a criminal.


59 posted on 08/06/2007 7:24:27 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: jesseam

You’re either with him or against him, I’m guessing it’s the latter. Fine with me, support who you want, but at least have a valid reason.

I cannot say this often enough, or capitalize it large enough, but THERE IS STILL TIME FOR FRED TO ENTER THE RACE! FGS, campaign 2008 started shortly after the results for campaign 2006 were in the books. It’s 6 months until the first primaries, and 15 months until the election!


60 posted on 08/06/2007 7:34:55 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (FRED!)
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