Noble (OK) officers on leave after shooting

Oklahoman Staff Writer ^ | Monday, August 6, 2007 | Jennifer Griswold

[SmoothTalker]

Hopefully the next stop is jail. Unbelievable recklessness to be trying to blow a snake out of a tree with a gun without knowing what else was in the line of fire.

[wideawake]

Ah, yes. In Hillary’s socialist village, every accident is a crime.

In stinkerpot65's socialist village, no one is responsible for the consequences of their own stupid decisions.

If they, in their mindbendingly stupid negligence, kill someone - hey, stuff happens. No biggie.

[Politicalmom]

The grandfather said in another article that the cops did NOT help, but walked right by. So which is it?

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

What happens if you bop a snake on the head with a nightstick?

[NorthFlaRebel]

Nobody feels worse about this than the cop. I’m sure he’ll pay a big price beyond that,

I'll be sure to ping you to the follow-up article that will state that the DA has decided not to file charges.

[rednesss]

“If he decides to blow his own brains out will you cheer? I won’t.”

Let’s all hope that that is the outcome and he can save the taxpayer’s the price of a trial. I would throw a ticker-tape parade. But we all know that cops are above the law and that the DA will rule this as a justified shooting. POS.

[traviskicks]

"Daves confirmed two shots were fired at the snake to kill it."




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[Navy Patriot]

Prayers for the boy and family, consequences for the negligent.

[Joe Brower]

"Firearms Rule #1- There’s no “I’m sorry” with a gun."

From one Brower to another, truer words were never said.

[TheKidster]

Amen, If I shot at my neighbor’s pit bull while it rushed me and a bullet hit one of the neighborhood kids, you can bet your sweet a$$ I’d be sitting in jail.

There is specific .22 round ammunition made for this, it’s actually called snake shot. We use it here in FL to kill water moccasins. You don’t need a 9mm or .45 ACP or what ever to kill a snake. Unfortunately this was overkill.

[TheKidster]

Nobody feels worse about this than the cop.

I’d like to hear what the kid’s family would say to this statement.

[MizSterious]

Criminal negligence? I wish you folks could SEE the terrain in question. I have. I live nearby. The growth is so thick, no one could possibly see as far away as where the boy was. A cop would not be able to fire a gun at all out here if he had to see that far away, and that’s a fact.

Firing into the air is another matter, but I suspect he will be punished for that mistake.

Now, if only the would also punish the foolish woman who called 911 over a snake....

And I do make a distinction between someone who is evil to the core and shoots children in drive-by shootings, and someone who only wants to do good, and causes harm. Fortunately, the law does too, even if people like you do not.

[ellery]

Very sad all around. It’s likely the negligent police officers feel just as bad as anyone would whose reckless action unintentionally kills an innocent person. I have some sympathy for them, but their assumed feelings of regret do not exempt them from the law — they should be subject to the same punishment that anyone else would face in this situation.

Prayers for the child’s family, and for everyone involved.

[dashing doofus]

I agree 100%.

IMO, The cops should face the same consequences for negligent use of a firearm as any other citizen.

And prayers for the dead child, his family, and yes, the police officers involved. A tragic mistake, but it was still negligent.

[Filo]

If he decides to blow his own brains out will you cheer? I won’t.

I would. Stupid should hurt. Especially stupid by "trained professionals."

I would also cheer if the father of the boy decides to exact justice when the department and/or the courts decline.

The police should not be above the law. This was not an accident.

[arroyo run]

I believe the police were dispatched because the municipality’s animal control officer position is vacant.

[MizSterious]

Trained professional? This is not the big city here. Three guys were out there, of the three, only one had more than a year’s experience. “Training” according to what I’m told consists of CLEET certification on their own dime, and “riding around awhile” with another officer. Wages...I’m hearing not more than minimum wage, with few benefits.

And NO ONE has said he’s “above the law.” This will be reviewed, perhaps more carefully than other cases because of the publicity, and he will likely face the consequences. These could include jail time, which for a police officer is more difficult than for others. It could also include fines and likely lawsuits—although I’m not sure you can get blood out of a turnip.

Aside from that, he’ll probably have nightmares for the rest of his life. If he has a family, no doubt they, too, will suffer for the rest of their lives too, especially if there’s jail time involved.

The last thing this man will be is “above the law.”

[MizSterious]

The word “much” was left out of the comment about wages—should have been “not much more than minimum wage”—sorry about that.

[MizSterious]

And please explain to me how this was not an accident? Did he stalk the young boy and track him down and shoot him? Or was it, as the article stated, a stray (or ricochet) bullet that took his life?

[Filo]

And NO ONE has said he’s “above the law.”

I did.

All cops are above the law. They are held to a completely different standard than citizens and they frequently get away with murder and other crimes exclusively because they are cops (i.e. civilians doing the exact same thing would be convicted, cops are not.)

And please explain to me how this was not an accident? Did he stalk the young boy and track him down and shoot him? Or was it, as the article stated, a stray (or ricochet) bullet that took his life?

If I get in my car drunk off my ass and plow into a family in a crosswalk would that be an accident?

If I run through a neighborhood shooting wildly, almost at random, and hit someone in a nearby home is that an accident?

Accidents are completely unexpected results from normal actions. I.e. a tire blows out or an iceberg comes out of the fog.

Shooting a gun has the expected result of putting a fast-moving projectile out of the muzzle. Unless the gun went off by itself due to some mechanical failure this incident was not an accident. It was the negligent discharge of a firearm.

The idiot cop should have known better, even with his minimal training, and should never have fired the gun. Having done so, however, he's lost all sympathy for himself or his family. At least from me.