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To: FormerLib

I don’t think this hypocrisy argument gets us very far. The logical conclusion is that they should use less energy. I just want them to shut up and mind their own business. We would do better to illustrate that they are a bunch of communist inspired totalitarian leaning busybodies who don’t know what they are talking about. A lot of mischief hides under the environmentalist label and we need to sully it.


11 posted on 08/06/2007 6:43:47 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: ClaireSolt
I don’t think this hypocrisy argument gets us very far. The logical conclusion is that they should use less energy. I just want them to shut up and mind their own business. We would do better to illustrate that they are a bunch of communist inspired totalitarian leaning busybodies who don’t know what they are talking about. A lot of mischief hides under the environmentalist label and we need to sully it.

I wholely disagree. The totalitarian angle should be completely played (and defended against) but by far the hypocrisy angle is the most effective and immediate.

It is one thing to argue the minutia of global warming. This study, this figure, this statistic vs. another study, another figure, another statistic.

You don't need almost any registerable IQ to recognise the rank hypocrisy of, say, Sheryl Crow saying we should use only one sheet (maybe two) of toilet paper per visit and then seeing bulletin boards of Crow endorsing a hair coloring system where the product comes in a very elaborate, corrogated box that clearly uses the equivalant of a roll or two or three of paper product.

Step one to make some of these enviromental celebrities shut up IS to highlight their hypocrisy with a constant drumbeat. Trust me-it'll shut alot of them up.

But it is certainly true that the most important thing is to expose the fraud that is the purported science.

17 posted on 08/06/2007 7:09:55 AM PDT by torchthemummy (Democrat's Support Of The Military: "Invincible In Peace-Invisible In War")
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To: ClaireSolt
I don’t think this hypocrisy argument gets us very far. ... We would do better to illustrate that they are a bunch of communist inspired totalitarian leaning busybodies who don’t know what they are talking about.

Somewhere between the 50's and the 90's, our celebrity obsessed culture started placing more value on what a hollywood star had to say about a given cause then people who had spent their life working on that issue in the private or public sector. I still often wonder how this happened, but it did. The enviromental cause is the current celebrity fad of the moment to get them more face time, more publicity, more movie offers from their groupthink peers, and helps to inflate their opinion of themselves even higher. This can all be seen when they trip over themselves to rush up to the podium of yet another-self-congratulating-award show to spout off their latest allegience to the enviromental cause.

Thankfully, this rush to go "green" is also leading to the public reevaluating celebrities in general. Their over the top hypocrisy on environmentalism is the key to waking up the masses. People are just now beginning to realize that celebrities really should shut up and sing, and that they are the last people that we want to listen to when it comes to guiding our nation. This is important as it will help to shut down a very successful propaganda channel that the totalitarian busybodies have used on the public in the last few decades to manipulate public opinion. An avalanche of information exposing their hypocrisy on their push to convert us to being "green", will lead to the public being less trusting of their celebrity icons, which is a good thing.
22 posted on 08/06/2007 10:29:14 AM PDT by Gen-X-Dad
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