An appeal to support the mission that active members of the military can sign:
1 posted on
08/05/2007 1:15:49 PM PDT by
bnelson44
To: bnelson44
Kos bitching about being called chickenhawks while hypocritically calling right-wing bloggers warmongers. Classic Marxist double standard.
2 posted on
08/05/2007 1:19:37 PM PDT by
Free Vulcan
(Fight the illegal Mexican colonizers & imperialist conquistadors! Long live the resistance!)
To: bnelson44
When Sergeant David D. Aguina stepped up to the microphone at the YearlyKos forum on the panel on The Military and Progressives: Are they that Different? and began to quietly rebut many of the points that had been made about the failure of The Surge, he knew he wouldnt have an easy time of it. That is why he prepared a four-inch thick loose leaf binder full of charts, graphs, releases from the Department of Defense, the State Department, and Central Command, as well as articles from the mainstream media.
But for all his preparation, he was still taken by surprise when one of the panelists, John Soltz, founder of the anti-war group Votevets.Org, took him to task and silenced him on the grounds that Aguina was wearing his uniform while expressing his political opinions.
3 posted on
08/05/2007 1:20:17 PM PDT by
bnelson44
(http://www.appealforcourage.org)
To: SandRat; Allegra
4 posted on
08/05/2007 1:20:52 PM PDT by
bnelson44
(http://www.appealforcourage.org)
To: bnelson44
Aguina also pointed out that Stolz violated the code of behavior between a commissioned and non commissioned officer. Article 91, he said, forbids a commissioned officer from criticizing a non commissioned officer, and behaving in the condescending manner in which he was treated. People in that audience didnt have to see an American soldier be as rude and disrespectful toward another American soldier.Heh, heh. What's good for the goose.
5 posted on
08/05/2007 1:21:24 PM PDT by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
To: bnelson44
If Im in violation of AR670-1 which is the regulation he brought up, then hes in violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice Article 88 which says no commissioned officer can criticize a government official.
Aguina also pointed out that Stolz violated the code of behavior between a commissioned and non commissioned officer. Article 91, he said, forbids a commissioned officer from criticizing a non commissioned officer, and behaving in the condescending manner in which he was treated. People in that audience didnt have to see an American soldier be as rude and disrespectful toward another American soldier.
6 posted on
08/05/2007 1:22:23 PM PDT by
bnelson44
(http://www.appealforcourage.org)
To: bnelson44
Kos himself recently complained about the regs prohibiting vets from wearing their uniforms to political events.
So is Kos a political entity or not? The IRS and FEC would like to know.
7 posted on
08/05/2007 1:23:29 PM PDT by
mountn man
(The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
To: bnelson44
I was reminded what the rules were on this.
when participating in activities such as public speeches, interviews, picket lines, marches, rallies or any public demonstration (including those pertaining to civil rights), which may imply Service sanction of the cause for which the demonstration or activity is conducted.
Sure enough, it said it But I'm wondering if I read that out of context. on page
Chapter 11
It says the following.
11002. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE DIRECTIVES PERTAINING TO UNIFORMS
1. Implementing 10 U.S.C. 772, the President, by Executive Order 10554 of 18 August 1954, delegated to the Secretary of Defense the authority to prescribe regulations under which persons may wear the uniform. The following excerpts from DoD Directive 1334.1 of 11 August 1969 outline these regulations:
a. Members of the Armed Forces (including retired members and members of reserve components). The wearing of the uniform is prohibited under any of the following circumstances:
(1) At any meeting or demonstration which is a function of, or sponsored by an organization, association, movement, group, or combination of persons which the Attorney General of the United States has designated, pursuant to E.O. 10450, as amended as totalitarian, fascist, communist, or subversive, or as having adopted a policy of advocating or approving the commission of acts of force or violence to deny others their rights under The Constitution of the United States, or as seeking to alter the form of Government of the United States by unconstitutional means.
(2) During or in connection with the furtherance of political activities, private employment or commercial interests, when an inference of official sponsorship for the activity or interest could be drawn.
(3) Except when authorized by competent Service authority, when participating in activities such as public speeches, interviews, picket lines, marches, rallies or any public demonstration (including those pertaining to civil rights), which may imply Service sanction of the cause for which the demonstration or activity is conducted.
(4) When wearing of the uniform would tend to bring discredit upon the Armed Forces.
(5) When specifically prohibited by regulations of the department concerned.
9 posted on
08/05/2007 1:36:18 PM PDT by
Tut
To: bnelson44
What I don't understand is their (Kos') concern over military personnel speaking in uniform.
Which leads me to think that either they are wimpy wannabees who couldn't hold a candle to the Jane Fondas and John Kerrys of the '60's era politicos or they are full of $h*t when trying to claim that their concern was that him speaking in uniform was illegal and it had nothing to do with what he had to say.
Since when did following the letter of the law matter when it comes to bashing this administration and politicians/policies they disagree with?
To: bnelson44
"This Is Part Of The Battlefield" Truer and more urgently needed words have never been spoken!
Communist Vietnamese Generals like Giap knew it.
Jihadi Al-Qaeda leaders like Zawahiri know it.
About time ALL America knows it!
13 posted on
08/05/2007 3:10:58 PM PDT by
drpix
To: All
Gee, all this because one of his “brothers and sisters in uniform” showed up uninvited just think what Kos would do if a “mercenary” showed up.
14 posted on
08/05/2007 4:21:58 PM PDT by
WilliamofCarmichael
(If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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