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There were no new ideas. The ideas had been around for decades.

Well, sure. I never said they were fully new ideas. But those ideas exploded into popular culture in the '60s in a way that was unprecedented until then. Something definitely happened in that decade of turmoil and astounding change; no denying that.

As a 1965 HS grad, I know we were NOT all alike. We were NOT all druggies, did NOT all have shoulder length hair, did NOT all listen to music 24/7, did NOT all protest the war in Vietnam, etc.

Yes, of course. I never said or even insinuated that everyone was alike. You don't have to make that point with me. But the contingent of people that DID do these things you mentioned changed society in some profound ways, and altered the concept of liberalism from what it had been before the '60s. We are still suffering from those changes.

Always, always, always remember in 1972 McGovern got obliterated by the Silent Majority who re-elected Nixon.

Yes, but that seems a very small point to me, in contrast to the profound changes (most for the worse, in my view), that have been wrought upon society, Silent Majority or no Silent Majority.

“Always, always, always remember in 1972 McGovern got obliterated by the Silent Majority who re-elected Nixon.

Yes, but that seems a very small point to me, in contrast to the profound changes (most for the worse, in my view), that have been wrought upon society, Silent Majority or no Silent Majority.”

I suppose I am more optimistic than you. Since then, we have elected Nixon, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II. The dems have elected Carter, and Clinton—Clinton in part due to Perot.

Republicans can pull out wins in 2008 IF they have the political skill to point out the flaws with liberalism, as currently displayed. The democrat party has been pulled leftward, away from the mainstream of American sentiment.

At present the conservative movement is adrift, and the dems are doing a good job of portraying the right as extremist, which it is NOT, for the most part.

The Republicans need to demonstrate they are the mainstream, and the dems are the extremists.