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Time to admit the 'gun nuts' are right
Journal Inquirer ^ | 8/3/2007 | Keith C. Burris

Posted on 08/04/2007 10:30:58 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama

In the aftermath of the Petit family slayings in Cheshire, we all reached for explanations: How do human beings sink this low? How could this tragedy have been prevented? Why? There are so many nagging questions. They all need to be asked. And maybe some old arguments need to be hashed out again.

Why not a more stringent "three strikes and you're out" law in this state? Connecticut's version is so weak that it's more like "30 strikes and we'll think about it while you strike again."

Why not speed up the criminal trial process for repeat violent offenders? Get them off the streets. It's been proposed many times. Most people agree it should be done. It never happens.

Can't we better monitor the probation process?

Can't we do a better job of predicting -- figuring out which non-violent criminals are about to turn violent?

Are home alarms really effective?

How about dogs?

But somehow all of these ideas pale before the barbarity of this particular crime.

That is why one old question is worth asking again. It is this: What if the Second Amendment is for real? Is it possible that it should it be revered, just like the First Amendment?

Sam Ervin said, "The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." Maybe that applies to all of the Constitution.

Is it possible that the Second Amendment is not a quaint and antiquated remnant of a world that will never return, but an idea as relevant and sound today as when it was written?

Is it possible that we are not talking about the right of the government to form a militia when there is no standing army, but the right of the individual to defend himself, or herself, against both tyranny and lawlessness? Maybe we are talking about the right of self-defense -- the right of the individual to take up arms against a government that wants to oppress, be it foreign or domestic. And the right of the individual to defend himself against criminals, brutes, and barbarians when local police seem unable to stop them.

Might the Second Amendment matter almost as much as the First?

I think the answer is yes.

And just like the First, the Second is practical, newly relevant, and far wiser than the watered-down alternatives.

I don't think George Bush wants to impose martial law on his fellow citizens. But he has diluted habeas corpus. And he has enlarged Big Brother. You have to stop and think about a government that wants to control the thoughts and behavior of its people.

Should such a government be permitted to disarm them as well?

And whereas the reform of the criminal justice system along some of the lines suggested above (a real "three strikes" law and faster trials for violent offenders) would not have saved the lives of Jennifer, and Hayley, and Michaela Petit, a gun might have.

I don't say it would have.

I say it might have.

Had Dr. William Petit had access to a gun and known how to use it, he might have been able to dispatch the two perpetrators, who were armed with only an air gun and ropes.

Moreover, the three victims here were women.

What if Mrs. Hawke-Petit had been trained in the use of firearms? Suppose she had been able to get to a gun after her husband was beaten into unconsciousness by the invaders? Or when she was forced to take one captor to the bank to fetch him money?

It's worth thinking about.

Women and children are now the major targets of predators in our society. Government is not protecting them very well. Many professional women who work in cities know this and take courses in self-defense. A gun may be the only realistic self-defense against the sort of criminals we are talking about here.

And if a few women took care of a few thugs in cases like this; if a few stories like this one ended in a different way -- with a woman blowing one of these brutes to kingdom come -- it might be a deterrent. Lives upon lives might be spared.

A friend of mine said: "The gun nuts are back."

They are.

And they are right.

Mind you, we are talking about arming people who are trained and know how to use a weapon.

No one should have a gun who has not been trained.

Just as one gets training in handling a boat, motorcycle, or car, one must learn how to use and safely store a gun. (The National Rifle Association maintains an extensive national network of programs in firearms training and education.)

And, obviously, no one would be forced to own a gun.

A second caveat: Encouraging citizens to arm themselves is no "answer" to crimes like the Petit murders.

An "answer" does not exist.

But it is one of several remedies when we are faced with palpable evil.

All possible remedies should be on the table:

-- Various reforms of the justice system, like a real three-strike-law for predatory offenders.

-- Better psychological treatment for troubled youth.

-- Religious training, in both love and self-restraint, especially when people are young.

-- Prison programs that both retain the hard core and educate the educable.

-- More and better home alarm systems.

-- More cops visible in more neighborhoods.

-- Dobermans.

All of these approaches have merit.

So does self-defense.

None of these options "fix" a society that can produce human beings who torture and kill the defenseless for sport.

No one step or program can plug every hole in America's justice system, or its soul.

But there are times when a gun in the hands of a potential victim may save a life.

Let's admit -- since the murderers, and druggies, and psychos, and thieves already have guns -- that arming the peaceful, law-abiding, decent, and productive people, whether in a school, or a private home, or on the way to a parked car, is an option that also has merit.

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Keith C. Burris is editorial page editor of the Journal Inquirer.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; selfdefense
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To: TheMom; humblegunner
Dude, if you fed the midget more than once a week maybe he could be a mini-body guard.

That might work except humble doesn't exactly have a mini-body.

;-)

261 posted on 08/05/2007 9:12:23 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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To: Eaker

That *can't* be the same young lady that shot my M-1 Carbine in the mud pit that was the 2nd annual Texas Cowboy Memorial Shoot, can it?

I guess it's been a long five years.

But not as long as the next five. You are in so much trouble ... and I say that as the father of two blond daughters, one now a law school grad (UT) the other working on her PhD at UT. The lawyer is pregnant ... with identical twin girls, which will be her second and third daughters. Number one is also blond. :)

262 posted on 08/06/2007 12:51:16 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Eaker
This range doesn't allow the collection of brass as they sell it for scrap

Nothing wrong with those folks that a good enema wouldn't fix.

263 posted on 08/06/2007 12:57:01 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: TheMom
If/when we do that again, we will make sure that there is a gun available ~ just in case.

Given how well she shoots, how responsible she seems (at least around guns, boys may be a different matter entirely) , and given that it is YOUR HOUSE you are talking about, with what the police would surely call an arsenal, I'd be amazed and stupefied if there weren't.

264 posted on 08/06/2007 1:03:04 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Charles Martel
I'll have to make it down to Houston for one of the shoots; it seems a lot closer now that I live in the same state.

Well, it's a big state. And the next shoot is not in Houston, a mite farther south/west along the coast, down near Corpus Christi. Could be worse, distance wise, it could be in Brownsville, or El Paso.

If you're in Dallas or nearby, Corpus is a good day's drive. Brownsville is a really long days drive. I couldn't believe how far Brownsville was, and I was driving from San Antonio.

I plan to take the day *before* the shoot off, or at least most of it. Possibly the Monday after as well. We'll see.

265 posted on 08/06/2007 1:18:18 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Popocatapetl
He has to surrender some of his liberty to even have a wife or children.

He did that completely voluntarily, AFAIK. And your statemetn isnt' correct anyway, many is the Muslim who has a wife or 4, without giving up his concubines, let alone any liberty he might have. Has children too.

When the government, (or society if you will) forces you to give up your liberty, that's a whole 'nuther thing. The sort of thing that caused a bunch of folks at Concord to shoot at the Official Government Gun Grabbers back in 1775.

I believe Thomas Jefferson, in the Declaration of Independence, wrote of "Inalienable rights", meaning those rights no legitimate government may take away.

266 posted on 08/06/2007 1:40:00 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: humblegunner

i’d be happy to have them poop in one spot. i hate running around the range trying to find it all to pick it up.


267 posted on 08/06/2007 5:43:18 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: El Gato

We went to Deer Camp South, Eaker likes to bring all his toys with him. A person needs a different weapon when dealing with snakes, an alligator & evil cattails. ;-)


268 posted on 08/06/2007 5:48:50 AM PDT by TheMom (Dix, TexasCowboy and Flyer all now live in the next best place to Texas . . . Heaven!)
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To: TheMom
We went to Deer Camp South, Eaker likes to bring all his toys with him. A person needs a different weapon when dealing with snakes, an alligator & evil cattails. ;-)

I can understand that. I like to drag all my stuff out whenever I can. My back doesn't, but I do. :) Time to buy TheGirl, TheGun. Of course given the laws these days, it'll have to remain the property of TheParents. IIRC, you could get in trouble for allowing her unsupervised access to it, possiblly even if she used it to defend herself. Kids in California are dead because of a similar Stupid Law for stupid people. Killed with pitchfork when the young girl couldn't get to the guns because of "lock up your safety"/"safe storage" type laws.

269 posted on 08/06/2007 4:02:05 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Eaker

What is that beautiful gun’s name?
(I want one)

http://www.tomeaker.com/Range/THK01.jpg


270 posted on 08/08/2007 9:04:43 PM PDT by Wildbill22
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To: Wildbill22

I found out by looking on Gunbroker.com.
H&K SL8.
Nice.


271 posted on 08/09/2007 4:11:20 AM PDT by Wildbill22
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