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>>>It forces all businesses and individuals to pay for health insurance, for themselves, or for others. If they don't, they will face stiff penalties. That's socialized medicine, no matter how you spin it. <<<<

Ahhh....but Romney vetoed the portion of the bill that required businesses to purchase healthcare for their employees, didn't he? Yes, the Mass legislature overruled him. And as mentioned below, individuals are not required to purchase healthcare, either.

And that's still not socialized. The government is not running the system, paying healthcare workers (except in the case of the very poorest, which is being done in every state in the country, already). Meanwhile, you seem to think it would have been better for Romney to maintain the status quo of the government mandating that doctors and nurses render services to those who refuse to pay with zero compensation for it. And passing at least a portion of those expenses off on those who did do something as drastic as pay for services rendered.

>>>Sure you do, unless you're under a certain income. Then the taxpayers pay for it. Again, socialized medicine.<<<

Incorrect. Under Romney's plan you're free to deposit $10,000 in an interest-bearing escrow account with the state. If you don't pay your medical bills, the providers stuck with your bad debts can apply for that money. In other words, no need to buy insurance. But you can't just refuse to pay for healthcare anymore and cry and do nothing if you're involved in an accident.

And I note your complete and total failure to put forth a better system than the one Romney proposed, despite my urgings otherwise. Not even the framework of one.

I note your tacit support for a system that allows individuals to simply refuse to pay for medical services and for legal mandates that medical providers render services, anyway. So how would you classify mandated work without compensation. Tyrany? Slavery? What do you want to call that?