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Is an economic Katrina poised to overtake the financial system's levees?
MarketWatch ^ | 08/03/07 | Rex Nutting & Nick Godt

Posted on 08/03/2007 2:29:53 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper

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To: Loyal Buckeye

Thanks for the correction, I just remember gas lines and high interest rates. I’m paying 4.6% fixed now. :-)


21 posted on 08/03/2007 3:28:46 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: MrPiper

Actually, I wasn’t correcting you. I thought you were talking mortgage rates; I forget what those rates were during that period. I do, however, remember the prime rate. Carter set an all-time record.


22 posted on 08/03/2007 3:33:20 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: ccmay
" agree, it’s madness to call for government controls on interest rates."

What the hell is the Fed doing then when they announce they are either lowering or raising the Fed rate?

Could it just be that we aren't really living in a free market either?

23 posted on 08/03/2007 3:37:46 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Sleeping Freeper

The outlook for the 08 elections will be pretty bad for Republicans if a recession occurs. The Dems will pound it day and night. Of course, there will be an upside. We’ll stop hearing the daily attacks on our soliers in Iraq since the Dems will have a new and better bauble.


24 posted on 08/03/2007 3:50:19 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: DB

“It was 17%+ in the Jim Bo Carter years...”

Wasn’t that early Reagan years?


25 posted on 08/03/2007 3:56:51 PM PDT by DemEater
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To: DemEater

It was Carter and Reagan inherited it.


26 posted on 08/03/2007 4:11:18 PM PDT by DB
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To: DemEater

The prime rate, for instance, the bench-mark borrowing rate for corporations, stood at 20% when President Reagan took office. It declined for three months before reaching 17% in April 1981, then suddenly shot up to 20.5% just one month later, only 1 point below the record 21.5% attained during the Carter Administration.

From Time.com


27 posted on 08/03/2007 4:15:14 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Loyal Buckeye; DB

Treasury yields topped out in 1982 then popped again in 84.

http://quote.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5ETNX&t=my


28 posted on 08/03/2007 4:22:00 PM PDT by DemEater
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To: KarlInOhio
But the normal rate was probably 18%-21% when you signed up, so if you are using them to borrow money or support your lifestyle you already have "Chump" written on your forehead. Someone has to pay for people like me who use the card, keep the money in the bank and pay off in full at the end of the month.

Why should chumps have to foot the bill for their own irresponsibility? < /s>

29 posted on 08/03/2007 4:32:59 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Somehow, I have little sympathy for people who live outside their means. I have even less for people who live outside their means and complain when something goes wrong.

Hopefully, people will learn something from their actions and act responsibly in the future.


30 posted on 08/03/2007 4:36:29 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: Sleeping Freeper

This is the beginning of the next depression. Keep in mind the following has been occurring since 2001:

1. High paying professional jobs have been going to outsourcing companies by the millions.

2. Cheap unskilled, uneducated immigrants are flooding our country.

3. Housing prices will be peaking due to numbers 1 and 2 since the middle class is being effectively eliminated.

4. Government is growing and when the Dems gain control in 2008, will take over energy, health care, and transportation industries.

5. Illegals will be given citizenship bringing in another 100M immigrants to be placed on welfare.

6. Oil will peak due to Government interference.

7. Wage and price controls will be instigaged and within 6 months, civil war will break out due to mass starvation.


31 posted on 08/03/2007 4:40:32 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: DemEater

The prime rate reached its peak of 21.5% December 19th, 1980 while Carter was still in office.

It was 6.25% when Carter took office.

At the end of Reagan’s first term it was 10.5%.

Source: http://mortgage-x.com/general/indexes/prime.asp


32 posted on 08/03/2007 4:40:44 PM PDT by DB
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To: RC2
Banks need to drop their interest rates on homes.

I'll pile on here, too. That wouldn't help the present problem. It's not rates, it's affordability of the principal. It's also the fact that no-doc loans were a bad idea for the liars and their lenders.

33 posted on 08/03/2007 4:45:27 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: DownInFlames

Awww ... yer just tryin’ to cheer us up...


34 posted on 08/03/2007 5:38:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Old North State
I have this nagging feeling that the DNC has some kind of manipulation power within the stock market. No, at least, I hope I'm not a conspiracy nut.

Today, "Wall Street plunged anew hurtling the Dow Jones industrial average down more than 280 points after comments from a major investment bank exacerbated the market’s fears of a widening credit crunch." That bank was Bear Stearns who made a public statement that now was the worst fixed income environment in 22 years. That is when Dow went down minus 280.

I've heard that Bear Stearns is a big contributer to Democratic candidates and causes.

Does anyone know if that is true??

35 posted on 08/03/2007 6:57:56 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: KarlInOhio
.. the normal rate was probably 18%-21% when you signed up, so if you are using them to borrow money or support your lifestyle you already have "Chump" written on your forehead. Someone has to pay for people like me who use the card, keep the money in the bank and pay off in full at the end of the month.

I can't imagine who could be stupid enough to keep a running balance on an 18%-20% credit card.

I've got two Master Cards and a Visa all at 8% -9% interest. I barely pay anything in interest.

36 posted on 08/03/2007 6:59:46 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
What the hell is the Fed doing then when they announce they are either lowering or raising the Fed rate?

Naming the price at which they will buy or sell government debt on the open market, and thereby adjusting the money supply in circulation.

While this process is admittedly open to potential abuses that keep conspiracy theorists lying awake nights, it is still a world away from telling a private company what rate they can charge.

-ccm

37 posted on 08/03/2007 7:27:32 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper
Interesting the change in attitude. Perhaps the condo price is too high. Perhaps they think the asset value would not protect them in the event of a default. I am very concerned about the gov’mints irresponsible spending habits. At some point our little banana republic’s economy will fold up like a cheap suit. All due to our leader’s maleficence.
38 posted on 08/03/2007 7:36:35 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: DownInFlames
You are such a beacon of light.
39 posted on 08/03/2007 7:43:18 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: RC2

Great Idea.... Karl...

/sarc/


40 posted on 08/03/2007 8:19:23 PM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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