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Bush Seeks Discussion of Climate Change
Washington Post ^ | August 3, 2007 | DEB RIECHMANN

Posted on 08/03/2007 12:19:59 PM PDT by jedward

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To: MCH
Pressure to do what? Reduce greenhouse gases? Why? GREENHOUSE GASES ARE NOT A PROBLEM! Everyone should read the latest scientific literature.

Either that, or recognize that this is a strategic ploy. By refusing to be a part of any solution that doesn't include India and China, W is challenging the rest of the world to prove it is as concerned about the climate as it claims to be. Otherwise, Kyoto (and whatever follows) is rightly seen as little more than an economic cudgel to be wielded against the U.S. by those who resent us.

21 posted on 08/03/2007 1:00:09 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: jedward

Hang onto your pocketbook.


22 posted on 08/03/2007 1:03:29 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: jedward

what climate change? GGRRR!


23 posted on 08/03/2007 1:05:01 PM PDT by Halls (Vote for a Constitutionalist!!!!!!)
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To: jedward
The United States, the largest emitter of greenhouse gases, is not a party to the Kyoto agreement, and large developing countries such as China, the second-largest emitter

Didn't China surpass the US last month in this category?

24 posted on 08/03/2007 1:06:58 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I read your blog entry today. Nice blog. One question that should give pause is, if we (the US) would try to use this as a ‘strategic’ effort against China, are not by default, recognizing China’s dominating trade power both over the US and their other world competitors? I can’t help but see that when I read your entry, which was well written by the way.


25 posted on 08/03/2007 1:10:00 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Shermy
Global warming hasnothing to do with trade.

? Global warming is a business.

If the regulations that we have to play by are more stringent than theirs (they have none) our producers are at an initial disadvantage. There are other major issues like currency manipulation but the fact is these 'environmental requirements' almost always boil down to one form of tax or another.
26 posted on 08/03/2007 1:10:27 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: processing please hold

Tell me about it. Talk about a gift wrapped package full of political ammunition used to shoot Republicans (collectively) in the foot. If we’ve lost control of trade to the point of having to play and manipulate the fantasy world of Global Warming, I’m not sure we can recover.


27 posted on 08/03/2007 1:13:28 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: kinoxi

Good points kinoxi.


28 posted on 08/03/2007 1:14:52 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“Didn’t China surpass the US last month in this category?”

I haven’t the smoggiest idea :)) I don’t keep up with the numbers, but the topic is of interest to me, from a political angle.


29 posted on 08/03/2007 1:19:34 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward
If we’ve lost control of trade to the point of having to play and manipulate the fantasy world of Global Warming, I’m not sure we can recover.

It is a fantasy world-global warming. And we will pay to fulfill their fantasies. Ya gotta admit, it's a brilliant scam. Science is against it yet it exists. My eyes are glazing over.

30 posted on 08/03/2007 1:20:17 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: jedward
Thanks. I don’t like most of this global warming crap but it is an unfortunate economic consideration. I think if we can deal with countries less inclined to promote radical change (China and India for example) and get most of the worlds population leaning more towards our point of view this ‘after Kyoto’ deal would end up less extreme. It is in our benefit to bring less radicalized major countries in on this. The hysteria in many European countries is borderline madness at this point.
31 posted on 08/03/2007 1:21:21 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: jedward

Here’s hoping there will be a few anthropogenic global warming skeptics among the invitees.


32 posted on 08/03/2007 1:23:27 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Kozak

I would, but I fear the possible approaching communist occupation far more than how much damage he can do in his remaining time.

I voted for him, but shamnesty killed any support I might feel for him. I will respect that he is our president, and refrain from bashing the man, but I am very disappointed.

I think maybe he was abducted by aliens, but I am no longer able to verify it with Weekly World News, whose demise was probably due to truth being stranger than fiction.

I think I’m going to rent “Invasion of the Bodysnatchers” this weekend. Or “Touch of Evil.”


33 posted on 08/03/2007 1:26:16 PM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: processing please hold

“it’s a brilliant scam”

I’m thinking it was highschool when I learned of the phrase. A science teacher talked about it and I made the connection with restrictions on production and overall costs. I thought....’damn, that’s pretty slick. A scam, but a slick scam.’


34 posted on 08/03/2007 1:27:01 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward
Hey, remember that thread before the state of the union when we all found out GWB was going to head down this road? And then a poster demanded we all apologize for thinking the President would say stuff like this?

I do. I might have to dig up that one.
35 posted on 08/03/2007 1:28:06 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: jedward

let’s seeeeeeeeeeeeeee cow farts, tailpipe emissions or extra-solar activity....pick one.


36 posted on 08/03/2007 1:30:26 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: jedward
A scam, but a slick scam.’

Yes indeed. Very slick.

37 posted on 08/03/2007 1:34:05 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: taxed2death

The next thing that will happen: Bush calls an emergency session of Congress and seeks funds to modify the sun’s behavior.


38 posted on 08/03/2007 1:37:02 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: kinoxi

Again, you make good points. Regarding your quote below...

“The hysteria in many European countries is borderline madness at this point.”

I agree, but I hate that we’re buried in so deep with the whole scheme that China can now bully the US with trade. Some people could easily argue replacing the word “bully” with “control”. I personally don’t get warm and fuzzies over that thought.


39 posted on 08/03/2007 1:43:10 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: mysterio

Sounds familiar. Our country is where it is because people only want to hear what makes them comfortable, for the most part. Both sides of the isle have contributed to one degree or another, but some group at some point has to start the enlightenment or there will never be substantive change IMO.


40 posted on 08/03/2007 1:46:36 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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