[Vanders9]

Theres nothing dishonorable in wanting to do a job as opposed to telling people how to do the job. The world needs indians as well as chiefs. In fact, I’d go so far as to suggest that a major problem with industry today is a surfeit of managers, consultants, team leaders, and project coordinators while there are too few actual techies, engineers and tradesmen who actually do the work.

[dakine]

???

Dishonorable?

Funny thing, I was commenting on ‘subordinates’ complaining about how their boss ‘makes’ them miserable...that is too funny...someone who lets their boss affect their mood would find something else to bother them if that boss is removed from the equation...

[Roccus]

I used to work (I was an indian) for a VERY LARGE company. For a few years I had one of the above described first line managers. When deriding his workers, a common occurrence, one of his favorite tools was the phrase, "You're lucky you have a job." One day he said that to me and I replied, "No! You're lucky we have a job, because without us....they don't need you!"