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To: TigerLikesRooster

My experience has been that people who get results (or are perceived to get results) get promoted. Being domineering and/or manipulative plays helps to some degree. While that approach may not yield the best results, it may be enough to make the person in charge appear effective.

What I am sure of is that bosses who try to be everyone’s friend are a recipe for disaster. Bosses have to make hard decisions at times—not everyone will be happy with the outcome.


7 posted on 08/03/2007 4:08:17 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: rbg81
My opinion is that the upper mgt just wants to see results...they could give a rats butt how subordinates feel about the boss who has to drive those results...this translates to the middle mgr. instructed to get the results not really giving a rats butt how his subordinates feel. This is the way of Corporate America now a days. To some extent I understand the reasoning, on the other hand it completely disregards one of the true elements of company assets from the outcome...the employees who work their butts off and feel unappreciated and out of the equation unless, God forbid, as a human being they make an error.

Just my two cents but this the way I see it, good or bad. Unfortunately, if those companies who choose to ignore the greatest asset and actually crap all over them, that asset moves to another company and the walls come tumbling down.

Unfortunately for me, I am at acompany now where I am well liked but there is a major department where I see the “just get results” attitude taking place at the expense of the subordinates who are being threatened and crap’d all over...just a matter of time before those walls break...Results look great now but I would say 50% of those crap’d on assets have their resumes out the door.

13 posted on 08/03/2007 4:50:00 AM PDT by never4get
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To: rbg81

While being domineering and/or manipulative may not yield the best results, it certainly is enough to make the person in charge appear effective at my plant, RBG81.

One of my more perceptive coworkers pointed out, some time back, that most of what passes for “leadership” in our medium-sized factory is simply the willingness to force people to do stupid things, at the whim of the higher-ups.
For instance, we’ll run 24000 cases of product A today, 8000 of product B tonight, and then 3000 more of A again tomorrow, just because the computer schedule says so. When we jump thru such hoops, we’re probably earning a feather for our team leader’s cap, as the schedule hashing is probably covering up a a supply/delivery manager’s mistake.


24 posted on 08/03/2007 5:14:41 AM PDT by flowerplough ("Call Mr. Plow, that's my name. That name again is Mr. Plow!" -Homer, in a TV commercial.)
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