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To: dr_lew
What did he use, then? ... Harry Potters wand ? ... Magic? This is what you are left with.

Though I did say that I wanted to avoid this becoming a crevo thread, I feel I should answer this one here.

Atheists and evolutionists: At some point billions of years ago, an infinitely dense and hot singularity exploded and the entire Universe resulted.

Me: Oh? Well, where did the material for that singularity come from in the first place? Did Harry Potter create it with his wand? And what caused the explosion? Magical Teletubbies lighting their flatulence?

This is what you are left with.

38 posted on 08/03/2007 8:10:51 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Backing Tribe al-Ameriki even if the Congress won't.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

“Me: Oh? Well, where did the material for that singularity come from in the first place? Did Harry Potter create it with his wand? And what caused the explosion? Magical Teletubbies lighting their flatulence?

This is what you are left with.”

You shouldn’t assume everyone has the same intellectual limitations that you do. There are very pragmatic and logical theories that deal with this, backed up by experimental evidence. If you had a clue about science, you would know this. I suppose you think it’s better just to wallow in your ignorance about science and attack it with nothing but outdated dogma and outright lies from prejudiced Creationist websites. Instead of making utterly ridiculous statements, why don’t you go do a web search on “vacuum fluctuation”?


50 posted on 08/03/2007 9:47:20 AM PDT by Locke_2007 (Liberals are non-sentient life forms)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Magical Teletubbies lighting their flatulence?

^5 bttt LOL!

56 posted on 08/03/2007 10:38:08 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (If my replies are short & sweet I'm texting from my cell phone and I'm all thumbs...)
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To: Mr. Silverback

The evolutionary model of the world has a comparatively simple posited origin, very remote from the present in time. All the familiar features of our world are presumed to have evolved due to natural events progressing according to natural laws over the ten billion years or so which transpired since the posited origin event.

In contrast, a creationist view is an interventionist view. It posits a Creator manipulating the material world using some sort of super-natural powers, which are never discussed. The most scientifically objectionable manipulation, which is patently ridiculous in my view, is the insistence that a Creator somehow manipulated atoms and molecules to form the DNA of some thousands or millions of different “created kinds”. This verges on the philosophical conceit of the universe-created-just-as-it-was-ten-minutes-ago.

I will also repeat my claim that the language of Genesis gives considerable support to a naturalistic view of life origins. God says, “Let the earth bring forth grass ...” and “Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature ...” and “Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind ...” .

To me, this leaves ample scope for inquiry into the natural means by which these events might have occurred. Of course, the creation is also divided into stages, which is very suggestive of an evolutionary view.


72 posted on 08/03/2007 4:50:35 PM PDT by dr_lew
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