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A New Breed of Atheist: The Anti-Theist
Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^
| 8/2/2007
| Chuck Colson
Posted on 08/02/2007 9:15:56 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback
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To: beachdweller; rickdylan
There is no contradiction between Christianity and whatever method God chose to bring about creation. Not true. There is one glaring, irreconcilable contradiction:
What did Adam and Eve bring into the world?
What has to happen for natural selection to work on any real scale?
The answer to both questions is the same: Death.
Even if a Christain believes that the first three chapters of Genesis are a fable/poem/allegory (Jesus didn't, but if you want to argue with Him that's your business) it's an essential Christian doctrine that death came into the world as a result of human separation from God, and that Christ's sacrifice was the cure for this. It's also an essential component of evolutionism that billions of inferior critters had to die in order to bring forth the guy who sat down and wrote Genesis 1-3. Well, they can't both be right.
Like I said, glaring and irreconcilable.
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posted on
08/03/2007 8:40:26 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(Backing Tribe al-Ameriki even if the Congress won't.)
To: meowmeow
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posted on
08/03/2007 8:50:06 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(Backing Tribe al-Ameriki even if the Congress won't.)
To: givemELL; Luke Skyfreeper; rickdylan; BigFinn; Sergei Andropov; TheDon; MHGinTN; dr_lew; ...
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posted on
08/03/2007 8:58:51 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(Backing Tribe al-Ameriki even if the Congress won't.)
To: uglybiker
One who worships cars? Gives new meaning to autoeroticism doesn't it?
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posted on
08/03/2007 9:03:01 AM PDT
by
TheDon
(The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
To: TheDon
Is that what the blonde Hilton did with the hamburger and the car at a car wash? [And no, I don’t want a video of the debauche-car-y.]
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posted on
08/03/2007 9:22:40 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
To: Mr. Silverback
I believe Rabbi Daniel Lapin made this point in “America’s Real War” (an excellent analysis of the cultural war we are in, by the way).
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posted on
08/03/2007 9:27:45 AM PDT
by
Ghost of Philip Marlowe
(Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
To: GOP Poet
Never lose hope! Don’t forget-at the end of the book, we win!
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posted on
08/03/2007 9:31:57 AM PDT
by
Califreak
(Go Hunter!)
To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
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posted on
08/03/2007 9:35:14 AM PDT
by
OriginalIntent
(Undo the ACLU revision of the Constitution. If you agree with the ACLU revisions, you are a liberal)
To: Mr. Silverback
Now wait a minute. If the Chinese government declares someone a reincarnation of Buddha, aren't they buying in to some supernatural priori unique to the Buddhist faith?
Somehow we all know that they aren't. They fit so well the role of the "Innovator" as described by C.S. Lewis in "the Abolition of Man".
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posted on
08/03/2007 9:42:01 AM PDT
by
AndyTheBear
(Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
To: Mr. Silverback
“Me: Oh? Well, where did the material for that singularity come from in the first place? Did Harry Potter create it with his wand? And what caused the explosion? Magical Teletubbies lighting their flatulence?
This is what you are left with.”
You shouldn’t assume everyone has the same intellectual limitations that you do. There are very pragmatic and logical theories that deal with this, backed up by experimental evidence. If you had a clue about science, you would know this. I suppose you think it’s better just to wallow in your ignorance about science and attack it with nothing but outdated dogma and outright lies from prejudiced Creationist websites. Instead of making utterly ridiculous statements, why don’t you go do a web search on “vacuum fluctuation”?
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posted on
08/03/2007 9:47:20 AM PDT
by
Locke_2007
(Liberals are non-sentient life forms)
To: Mr. Silverback
Atheism has nearly always been with us in one form or another, but the atheists weve been hearing the most from latelychiefly Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harrisare a new breed. Unlike the old-school humanists, the new atheistsor anti-theists, as some of them prefer to be calleddont want to just deny the existence of God, they want to wipe religion off the map.This isn't new.
They called it the Soviet Union back then.
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posted on
08/03/2007 9:49:59 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
To: Lazamataz
True...and I would add...
They have much bravado (stupidity) this side of eternity.
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posted on
08/03/2007 9:54:30 AM PDT
by
Guenevere
(Duncan Hunter for President 2008!!!)
To: rickdylan
“The whole world now knows that the tyrannosaur was just a big chicken with sharp teeth who lived a few thousand years ago...”
How stupid are you? Did you read the article that you linked to? Like the first sentence?
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08/03/2007 10:00:22 AM PDT
by
stormer
To: Mr. Silverback
“I cant imagine Carl Sagan...”
Huh? He wrote a book on it called “The Demon Haunted World; Science as a Candle in the Dark”. I suggest you read it and discard your superstitions.
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posted on
08/03/2007 10:03:13 AM PDT
by
stormer
To: rickdylan
“For that stuff to be 68M years old it would have to have never rained in Montana and the Dakotas for millions of years.”
Is that in your dissertation? Sounds like interesting research.
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posted on
08/03/2007 10:05:40 AM PDT
by
stormer
To: Mr. Silverback
Magical Teletubbies lighting their flatulence? ^5 bttt LOL!
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posted on
08/03/2007 10:38:08 AM PDT
by
DirtyHarryY2K
(If my replies are short & sweet I'm texting from my cell phone and I'm all thumbs...)
To: Mr. Silverback
I can't tell you how many times a Buddhist friend of mine has tried to convince me that Buddhist practice is consistent with my faith. Sure, he's doing that because he thinks I'll be happier, but how is that any different from me wanting someone to become a Christian because i think they'll be happier and Jesus told me to?
The difference is that the Buddha didn't tell your friend to proselytize, whereas Jesus did ask you to and a Muslim will say his prophet told him to.
To: Mr. Silverback
As soon as I saw the thread title I said, Dawkins come to mind. He’s the first listed!
To: Locke_2007; Mr. Silverback
actually he used his Word, its far more powerful and more authoritative than yours, or mine for that matter, although it seems we all want in part to have our declarations to be Truth.(after all we like being “as-god” or similarly “you are your own god”). such as your words of “pragmatic and logical” (both are subjective judgments) just because you have declared them as such, does not make them so, I find them illogical and out right speculative. an atheists premise, boils down to, you (and I) are far less creative than complete unintelligence.
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posted on
08/03/2007 11:30:22 AM PDT
by
flevit
To: flevit
Uh hunh. That was a very poorly-written and confusing post, but I think I got the gist of it. Tell ya what - you keep thinking that way - and I’ll stick to using the best tool available in the search for Truth - science. Like it or not, the same tool (Science), is what gave us antibiotics, genetic engineering, surgery, radio, televison, computers, automobiles, aircraft, spaceflight, the internet, nuclear power and a host of other gifts that have made our lives healthier, longer, and far more easy to bear and enjoyable to live than in the past. What has religion ever accomplished, besides being the cause for many if not most of the bloody conflicts in human history? Which is more logical, a scientific theory based on empirical evidence or surrendering one’s will and reason to atavistic (and conflicting) dogma?
“you (and I) are far less creative than complete unintelligence.”
Hunh?
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posted on
08/03/2007 11:46:02 AM PDT
by
Locke_2007
(Liberals are non-sentient life forms)
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