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Until Nothing is Left
Los Angeles City Beat ^ | August 2, 2007 | By William J. Kelly

Posted on 08/02/2007 7:27:45 PM PDT by JACKRUSSELL

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To: voiceinthewind

try breading the male zuchinin flower( the one that just has a stem no fruit) in egg and flour with some basil.
quick fry it in olive oil.
That was a treat from when I was a kid.
I got to do it for myself last year.
Again to prove I could do it.

It was heaven and the very taste of my ancestry.
Go for it.


21 posted on 08/02/2007 10:00:17 PM PDT by fishhound
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To: fishhound
If the pesticides are killing the bees off...

The bees are dying from a natural pathogen, or an even tinier critter than itself. It's happened before, and likely will happen again.

22 posted on 08/02/2007 10:09:32 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: JACKRUSSELL
I realized that it will be up to the people to counter this depletion occurring under the international free market consensus in Washington, which has torn agriculture from its community roots. Only the people can support farmers by buying domestic products, shopping at farmers markets, and frequenting local stores. It will be up to them to pressure their elected representatives to support local agriculture by preserving farmland and supporting farm programs. Unless they do it, agriculture will become little more than another multinational enterprise that after depleting one area and community of people, moves on to deplete the next until nothing is left.

What a great article.

Globalism will kill off America.

23 posted on 08/02/2007 10:11:43 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: voiceinthewind

I can’t wait to move back South so I can have a garden again. MA soil is so rocky, and the growing season is so short, it’s just a pain to dig a garden out in the back yard. We do have some local farms, though, so it’s good to be able to buy locally grown produce.


24 posted on 08/02/2007 10:14:48 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Vigilanteman
Chinese garlic fertilized with human waste or California garlic fertilized with the ka-ka of illegal aliens? Some choice, eh? I’ll grow my own, thank you.

Did you read the article? This is affecting every farmer in America.

You can thank the elite globalist.

It's all for the greedy rich. They don't give a damn who they put out of business. They don't give a damn if American can't even produce it's own food. They don't give damn.

They only care about profits regardless of consequences.

Read the entire article. It's well written and the warning should be taken very seriously.

And like agriculture, globalism is now affecting many of our industries, and with one giant common problem...We can't compete against early 1900s wages.

These trade policies will eventually choke this country off, and will only benefit the wealthy elite.

25 posted on 08/02/2007 10:22:22 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: fishhound

Oh boy! Thanks for that link. I bookmarked it. Summer’s almost over and I’ve been mulling over the fall planting. I might try that-looks great!


26 posted on 08/02/2007 10:23:03 PM PDT by Califreak
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To: Califreak
I hope many others do the exact same. We are. Of course if that comes to pass, watch for government to enact some kind of controls/taxes over private gardens...

Would anyone be surprised?

27 posted on 08/02/2007 10:28:19 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: moonhawk
That is baloney. Do some more research. Learn what the oldtimers did for our food production. They were the ones who experienced crop failures while trying to feed a growing population.

The problem with all of you today is that you think all the food you eat just magically appears in the supermarket.

28 posted on 08/02/2007 10:35:20 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Califreak

Your welcome. It’s been a real rewarding experience.


29 posted on 08/02/2007 10:50:36 PM PDT by fishhound
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To: Parmy; Rudder; hedgetrimmer

Economics is the allocation of scarce resources that have alternative uses...Water is a scarce resource.

In a really free market, those resources are used in the most efficient manner, determined by the market, ie those who actually use those resources.. When Govt steps in and “centrally plans” the allocation of resources, they create shortages that would otherwise not exist. Hence California having an abnormal amount of water, inland of course. They don’t grow a lot of food in the Redwoods.

And I doubt you’ve been around much longer than me. I know where food comes from. I was only making a point about free markets to those who sneer at them. The problem is not free markets, it’s that we don’t really have them.


30 posted on 08/03/2007 5:58:52 AM PDT by moonhawk (Fear and Loathing in '08: Hunter/Thompson)
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To: voiceinthewind

I think the birds spread the cherry tomatoes.

I found my *volunteers* growing in a patch of pink thistle that the birds love. The thistle did not originally grow in that spot, either. I was amazed, though, as I had never had that happen before!

We grow more each year, buy at farmers’ market, get more and more meat from locally-owned producers and simply eat less and less out of season produce. The imported stuff is fairly tasteless, so it isn’t a sacrifice.

I freeze and dry the excess.


31 posted on 08/03/2007 6:14:36 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: fishhound
That was years ago and now I hear that most of that is built up with housing and communities.

Nah, the lands around Gilroy and in the Salinas Valley are still largely agricultural. Probably doesn't look much different today than when you drove it. There are new (and very expensive) developments around Gilroy, but they've hardly wiped out the farmlands.

32 posted on 08/03/2007 6:20:28 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: moonhawk
The problem is not free markets, it’s that we don’t really have them.

Maybe you're not as dumb as you look, afterall.

33 posted on 08/03/2007 6:26:31 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: moonhawk
Water is a scarce resource.

LOLOLOL! Water covers 3/4 of the planet!
34 posted on 08/03/2007 6:49:03 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: moonhawk
In a really free market

Here it comes..... This is the warm up for the global socialists when they are pushing for "free trade" and the removal of citizen sovereignty over a nation's resources.

The outcome of this IS scarcity and misery.

Americans have provided water for themselves and their fellow Americans for more than 2 centuries. The greedy globalists disdain this sovereignty and are out to destroy it with their phony arguments.

Your phony statement about California being a desert is a lie that has been pushed by globalists for 2 decades so they can steal sovereign resources to feed a growing global monopoly on resources. Give up already.
35 posted on 08/03/2007 6:54:43 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: B-Chan
"Local food is the answer."

Not only is that safer but tomatoes actually taste like tomatoes and plums taste like plums.

36 posted on 08/03/2007 6:55:07 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: hedgetrimmer
Water is a scarce resource.

LOLOLOL! Water covers 3/4 of the planet!

Try drinking or irrigating your crops with salt water. Doofus.

37 posted on 08/03/2007 7:33:26 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists, FairTaxers and goldbugs so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Fancy seeing YOU on this thread.
38 posted on 08/03/2007 7:53:37 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Fancy seeing YOU saying something stupid on this thread.
39 posted on 08/03/2007 7:56:39 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists, FairTaxers and goldbugs so bad at math?)
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To: moonhawk
Economics is the allocation of scarce resources that have alternative uses...Water is a scarce resource. Economics is not necessarily the 'allocation of scarce resources', it is the allocation of resources that go naturally toward the direction of the greatest benefit.

Additionally, water is not a scarce resource. The planet is nearly 70% water. The problem is that it isn't always in places where it is wanted or needed.

Our ancestors, in their infinite wisdom, had the foresight to provide water where it was wanted and needed so that future generations could benefit greatly.

Since then we have been led by a bunch of brain-deads with no foresight so we have been living off the aforementioned legacy and have not improved upon the infrastructure that they constructed.

40 posted on 08/03/2007 9:36:58 AM PDT by Parmy
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