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1 posted on 08/02/2007 7:05:39 AM PDT by Lennyq
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2 posted on 08/02/2007 7:11:13 AM PDT by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process)
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I grew up and went to school in the 1950’s, graduating HS in 1960. I knew of NO ONE who was on any sort of medication to control behavior. Kids behaved in class because the feared the consequences if they didn't. It was just that simple.

What we have today is nothing more then the government schools and the NEA unions using behavior modification drugs as an indoctrination tool. The parents of these poor kids are simply not smart enough to see what is going on. I for one would NEVER allow my child to be put on Ritalin or any other similar drug simply to make the teachers job easier.

4 posted on 08/02/2007 7:14:14 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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The problem is not any “disease”.

It is lack of SERIOUS (not namby-pamby) discipline.

But this is what happens in a society where not only is real discipline frowned upon, but where every person is excused as having some bogus “disease” to explain his “problem”. Probably starting with “alcoholism”.

Oh, unless you’re homosexual. Then, there’s nothing wrong with you.


8 posted on 08/02/2007 7:24:35 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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Okay, I tend to agree on ADD and ADHD.

BUT this:

“Nowhere in world’s literature is there proof that a single psychiatric diagnosis is an actual disease.”

deserves the Bull Sh#t flag.


9 posted on 08/02/2007 7:24:37 AM PDT by Kozak
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“ADHD is not a disorder, disease, syndrome or chemical imbalance of the brain. It is not over-diagnosed, under-diagnosed, or mis-diagnosed. It doesn’t exist. It is a total, 100%, Fraud.” Nowhere in world’s literature is there proof that a single psychiatric diagnosis is an actual disease. “ADHD and all of psychiatry’s “chemical imbalances” are manufactured diseases- invented diseases that results in huge profits for psychiatrists and pharmaceutical companies.”

At that point we can safely assume the guy is a doofus. There is a gross and ligitimately disgusting over-prescriptioning of children, but clearly ADHD exists, and Ritalin is helpful for some of them.

12 posted on 08/02/2007 7:31:33 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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Ritalin is mind altering to the extreme. A shrink put me on it when I was still in elementary school. It can turn a normal boy of that age into a passive, frightened little animal that will constantly hide behind his mother's skirt.

Ritalin should be dealt with in the same way that crack cocaine is.
15 posted on 08/02/2007 7:37:49 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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Lazy teachers, mostly women who hate boys, push this dope by the millions.


19 posted on 08/02/2007 7:41:32 AM PDT by LibKill (Bush betrayed conservatives on Immigration. NO support for Bush.)
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According to Psychiatrists, boys being active are abnormal and need medicating, while homosexuality is normal and healthy.


20 posted on 08/02/2007 7:45:23 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberals hate capitalism, except when using it to attack America.)
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I am sorry I do not believe any child should be put on medication for behavior problems...Why did we all survive childhood without pills to reverse our moods...I got a good butt spanking when I did something I should not do..I stayed to busy to worry about getting into trouble..Like we did not have the money to buy all the stuff kids have today..I made my own..I made clothes for my dolls etc...so much that would keep a child occupied back then instead of giving them what they want every time they ask just to keep them out if the way..
21 posted on 08/02/2007 7:48:30 AM PDT by Willow25
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Psyhciatric diagnosis has always been a tool used to control political enemies. What is hard to believe is that anyone would use a political tool against children. But not all children are the targets.

I taught courses on this subject in the 70s. One of the diagnositc criteria was that the child is not a minority. The reason? because minority status is already a negative label and they don't need another negatvie label.

What is that about besides power?

At the time I taught (in Baltimore) about 15% of white boys in elementary school were classified as ADD or ADHD (they keep renaming it). I visited a (government) ADHD clinic. In a city that was majority black, there were no black children treated there.

The (black)principal of a local school (90% black) was a student of mine. She told me she knew nothing about it to start with and that none of the children in her school were on medication for ADHD behavior.

In the 90s I saw what I considered the result of this scheme. The young white men in my courses were often looking for information on their condition of ADHD. I hate to say anything mean, but what I saw was pathetic young men with no self-confidence, always aplogizing for themselves.

There are nice compassionate professionals involved in the ADD industry. It is hard to believe they are part of a power scheme, but if they were not in on the scheming, they are at least part of its execution.

22 posted on 08/02/2007 7:50:24 AM PDT by Marylander
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My wife, a student in Catholic Schools in the sixies, says that the Nuns had a sure-fire "cure" for ADHD. It was called a "ruler." You caught their attention, your got the "cure." Unsurprisingly there was rapt attention to what was going on in school and young people did their work as directed.

Of course we can't do it that way anymore; it wouldn't be progressive.

24 posted on 08/02/2007 7:52:51 AM PDT by Dogrobber
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researchers at the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center at the University of Texas found chromosome damage within three months of starting Ritalin in the twelve children they studied. (2/16/2005 online issue of Cancer Letters).


25 posted on 08/02/2007 8:04:04 AM PDT by MIDad23
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I think a lot of hyper behavior is related to diet and nutrition. Not just high amounts of sugar but the additives in soda pop and junk food get kids ramped up. Not enough exercise is a factor. The electronic environment leads to overstimulation as well. If I were a parent with a hyperactive kid, I would not be looking to add drugs but looking to subtract some things from the diet and environment.


29 posted on 08/02/2007 8:08:06 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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If a school employee ever comes to me and says my kid has ADHD and needs Ritalin, I’m going straight to the local prosecutor to demand prosecution for the Class 1 misdemeanor. If he isn’t willing, I’m going straight to the press about school officials practicing medicine without a license (Law: “Any person shall be regarded as practicing medicine ... who shall diagnose or attempt to diagnose ... any human ailment, physical or mental...”) on my kid and the prosecutor’s unwillingness to stop it.


30 posted on 08/02/2007 8:10:00 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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What so many of these children have is “dys-teachia”. They are taught little or no phonics, mired in whole language learning that results in poor reading skills and mimics dyslexia.


31 posted on 08/02/2007 8:10:47 AM PDT by Valpal1 ("I know the fittest have not survived when I watch Congress on CSPAN.")
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Fred Baughman is a total fraud.

He was the medical consultant to the Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR).

What is the CCHR? It's the freeking Church of Scientology!

Hail Xenu.

36 posted on 08/02/2007 8:23:03 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (Taking my organs to hell with me....)
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There are some fundamental problems with the medical industry and their methods of prescribing drugs. My brother’s 95 pound mother-in-law, 93, has dementia, was booted out of two nursing homes because she was “disruptive” and “dangerous” . . . at 95 pounds.

She was sent to a nursing home with psychiatric treatment capabilities. They put her on anti-psychotic drugs that doped her up and she lost 9 pounds in 2 weeks. When my sister-in-law complained about the damage it was doing to her mother and removed her from that nursing home, a nurse admitted that to collect from the payer, in this case the Federal government, they had to be administering some type of anti-psychotic drug. So the reimbursement rules were dictating her treatment.

There is no telling how much of this type of thing goes on, but I know of a number of elderly who have been over-medicated, my grandmother included This needs to be addressed big time.


43 posted on 08/02/2007 8:40:05 AM PDT by RatRipper
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But let a kid give another kid an aspirin or a Mydol and wham....enemy of the state.


55 posted on 08/02/2007 9:13:37 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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Interesting article and replies.


57 posted on 08/02/2007 9:22:55 AM PDT by scan58 (Diversity results in a collection of unconnected individuals.)
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ADHD is not a disorder, disease, syndrome or chemical imbalance of the brain.

Horsecrap. By definition, any identified group of symptoms constitutes a "syndrome", whether it means anything (or even exists) or not. And while it is ridiculously overdiagnosed, ADHD does exist. My wife has it. She takes Strattera, a non-stimulant drug; she used to take Ritalin but it interfered with her already severe heart problems.

58 posted on 08/02/2007 9:25:38 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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