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No Cover-up in Tillman Fratricide, Former Pentagon Officials Say
American Forces Press Service ^ | John J. Kruzel

Posted on 08/01/2007 5:43:05 PM PDT by SandRat

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1 posted on 08/01/2007 5:43:08 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: SandRat

Filthy rat congressmen are political grandstanding on the grave of this brave soldier. Repulsive and disgusting rats!


2 posted on 08/01/2007 5:53:13 PM PDT by Weeedley (Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.)
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Accidents happen and the military is the most dangerous job there is. There was a time when the military would have quietly conducted an investigation to make sure it didn’t happen again.

Today, it’s not about prevention. What we’re seeing is a very public attempt at political retribution.


3 posted on 08/01/2007 5:57:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: SandRat

I know Pete Geren. He used to live down the street from us when he was a child. Comes from a really decent and nice family.


4 posted on 08/01/2007 6:03:21 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: SandRat

“fratricide” - Wouldn’t this imply deliberate murder?


5 posted on 08/01/2007 6:30:53 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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No.


6 posted on 08/01/2007 6:34:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Not necessarily.


7 posted on 08/01/2007 6:39:27 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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The important question isn’t whether this was friendly fire or not. The important question is whether this was deliberate murder or not.


8 posted on 08/02/2007 5:53:13 AM PDT by Sam Franklin (So what have we learned?)
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Dont you know anything about a combat zone? Bullets are flying every which way. Fratricide, the deliberated killing of blood kin, is an unfortunate aand inaccurate description of what happened.


9 posted on 08/02/2007 12:59:09 PM PDT by Weeedley (Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.)
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Pat Tillman was deliberately fragged to shut him up.


10 posted on 08/02/2007 12:59:57 PM PDT by Maeve (Read Bush Executive Order PD 51...)
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Intriguing charge.


11 posted on 08/02/2007 4:29:28 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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If deliberate murder did happen, Sand Rat, could you handle the truth?


12 posted on 08/03/2007 6:48:30 AM PDT by Sam Franklin (So what have we learned?)
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To: Maeve

Shut him up about what? Specifics please if you’re going to throw a charge like that out here.


13 posted on 08/03/2007 6:53:58 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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I want to add this to the Tillman debate:

If I’m the family of someone killed by ‘friendly fire’, I don’t want to know about it. It won’t bring back my loved one and it only makes the pain worse. Also FF incidents are hard on troop morale.

Of course the msm, kos etc., will portray FF as murder, when it was really an accident.


14 posted on 08/03/2007 6:55:41 AM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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Good troll bait thread!


15 posted on 08/03/2007 6:56:54 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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Perhaps he's somehow trying to connect to this story?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1872230/posts
16 posted on 08/03/2007 7:00:54 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Let's Roll

If, in the case of your family member, it was deliberate murder, and not an accident, would you want justice?

It is one thing to say that you would not want the details in the case of a true accident. It is something else to say that it is okay to let murder go unpunished.


17 posted on 08/03/2007 7:52:34 AM PDT by Sam Franklin (So what have we learned?)
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Deliberate murder? Where are you getting that? For what reason, because as DUers allege Tillman was against the war in Iraq so Bush had him killed?

There are a whole bunch of people that we know are against the war so why hasn't Bush had them killed?

As far as I've ever heard - from other than moonbat sources - it was an accident - the authorities thought it was an accident so of course I would not want the authorities to inform me that he had been accidentally shot, blown up etc. by his comrades. That would only make it hurt all the more.

When my brother was killed, an acquaintance actually asked me if he suffered. G-d, believe me, I would not want to know that!

It's easy to demand full disclosure because you have a political agenda or haven't been there, but if it was an accident, the compassionate thing to do is say nothing.

18 posted on 08/03/2007 9:42:28 AM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: Let's Roll

If the pattern of holes in his skull do indicate deliberate murder (and I think they might), then I do not think it was George W. Bush. Rather, I think it would have been someone more in the mold of Tim McVeigh or Charles Graner.

But, really, first things first. First, they should disclose whether the bullet holes are close enough together in his skull to raise suspicions of deliberate foul play. If the holes are not that close, then case closed as far as the public is concerned.

It is only if and when the bullet hole pattern suggests murder that we should start inquiring about who did the hit.

You have to take these issues in the correct order, I think.


19 posted on 08/03/2007 9:49:55 AM PDT by Sam Franklin (So what have we learned?)
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Pat TIllman's mother and his brother insist he was fragged so he would not come back and be an anti-war spokesman. In his letters he wrote about staged events for CNN that were simply fakes. He was to meet with Noam Chomsky upon his return to the USA. He was fragged so that he did not become the face of the anti-war movement instead of Cindy Sheehan.

I'm happy to shine some family light on the subject.

20 posted on 08/03/2007 10:17:53 AM PDT by Maeve (Read Bush Executive Order PD 51...)
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