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To: fieldmarshaldj
Bennett couldn't even manage to win reelection in 1978 in the heavily anti-Carter year, even as the GOP won back the legislature, held the Senate seat and knocked off a 'Rat incumbent in the 2nd...

Avery lost to Docking, a Democrat. And later lost to Dole, who must have been the Rat in the race since you claim Avery was the conservative. But you've avoided the original question entirely. What was it that made Bennett and Hayden RINOs?

Shallenburger was the only logical choice. Too bad Graves and his RINOs sandbagged him. Can't let those filthy Conservatives win, y'know. They might actually accomplish something positive.

That's not what I asked. What was it, exactly, that made Tim the conservative. And had he not shared your exact position on abortion, which of the other candidates would you have supported?

You should be praising Conservatives for not voting for the RINO Taff, or did you forget he was later sentenced to prison ?

Actually that problem came after his second campaign, the one against Kobach. Had the more conservative element of the party voted for him the first time around then he might well have won and the situation might not have occured. But I keep forgetting. In your view better a Democrat in the office than someone who doesn't share your exact views on abortion.

Nope, because one is voting based on basic morality and decency, the other on the polar opposite. Like I said, while other issues are important, if a candidate fails this basic test, it proves they have no moral grounding and can compromise away anything and everything else. Something you fail to grasp.

I grasp it very well, because you've made it clear over and over again. Unless the candidate is strictly in line with your views on a single issue, abortion, then you dismiss them as a Rino and would rather have a Democrat in the office. Something you refuse to admit.

49 posted on 08/02/2007 2:37:41 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
"Avery lost to Docking, a Democrat. And later lost to Dole, who must have been the Rat in the race since you claim Avery was the conservative."

Where do you come up with that ? A Republican primary contest need not always be made up of two folks of different ideological stripes. Both Avery and Dole were from the more Conservative side, at least Socially, although Avery was vulnerable on the issue that cost him reelection in '66, and that's taxes. Bob Docking got to the right of him on taxes.

"What was it that made Bennett and Hayden RINOs?"

I already answered.

"What was it, exactly, that made Tim the conservative."

His support of Conservative issues.

"And had he not shared your exact position on abortion, which of the other candidates would you have supported?"

Neither of the other main primary candidates, Kerr or Knight, were Conservatives.

"In your view better a Democrat in the office than someone who doesn't share your exact views on abortion."

No, what you don't get is that a liberal Republican in office does double harm, both to the party itself, and to Conservatism. It advances neither, and helps the Democrat party. If you're going to elect a liberal, better it be a rodent, let them inflict the harm and pay for it at the ballot box at the next election when a real Conservative Republican can win. Ya dig ?

50 posted on 08/02/2007 3:21:36 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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