By your definition, and we know what that definition is. Or perhaps you can tell us what it was, exactly, that made Bill Avery, Bob Bennett, and Mike Hayden RINOs while leaving abortion out of it?
When we have prime opportunities to elevate them, as we did in 2002...
I know why I voted for him, but what was it, exactly, that convinced you that Tim Shallenberger was a rock-solid conservative? And if his views on abortion differed had from your's, which of his primary opponents would you have voted for and why?
...rodentry Socialist carpetbaggers like Gilligan of Ohio who dares to use the name of a respected and deceased Republican Congressman who is as far afield from her as can be.
She's lived here for 33 years so I think you can drop the 'carpetbagger' label. And I think she got her name from her husband.
And as for your laughable comment that "people like me" put Moore in office, I supported Vince Snowbarger.
And a whole lot of good that did you, all the way from Tennessee. But it was people like you, single issue Republicans from the moderate end of the party, who stayed home or defected that put Moore in. The same kind of people who stayed home when Phill ran two years later. And then it was the single-issue Republicans from the opposite end who sat out the Taff-Moore race. And the rest is history. And oh yes, there are people just like you, people who make abortion the single deciding factor in their support for a candidate as well. Those are the ones who won't vote for an abortion opponent regardless of their other political beliefs. They're no different in their way than you are in your's.
It was RINOs like you who turned that superb Congressman and former legislative leader out of office, not us Conservatives.
Shows what you know. I voted for Vince twice.
Ditto turning out another fine man by the name of Phill Kline.
I keep telling you, have Phill come out there and run for something if you're so enamored with him. He'll be free in about 17 months.
Remember, by your definition, keeping a Communist/Soviet puppet regime in power is "Conservative." "My" definition is one shared by most Conservatives. ;-)
"Or perhaps you can tell us what it was, exactly, that made Bill Avery, Bob Bennett, and Mike Hayden RINOs while leaving abortion out of it?"
Avery was not included. He was seemingly the last Conservative Republican. As for Bennett, Hayden & Graves, in the case of Bennett, he was clearly the Establishment choice and was to the left of his DINO opponent, Vern Miller. Bennett couldn't even manage to win reelection in 1978 in the heavily anti-Carter year, even as the GOP won back the legislature, held the Senate seat and knocked off a 'Rat incumbent in the 2nd. I don't know what Bennett's position on abortion was. Hayden was also a similar Establishment disappointment, and like Bennett, not only couldn't win reelection, but lost the House of Reps to the Dems, real brilliant. To prove his bonafides, he works as a department head for Gilligan-Sebelius. Oh, and yes, he was a prominent pro-abort. Less than useless. Graves was also another pro-abort whose "popularity" he used to halt a Conservative from succeeding him. As I wrote in an analysis last year, the RINO as a Governor almost uniformily fails to deliver a Republican successor no matter how ostensibly "popular" they are (and in what few instances that they do, it's usually because of a flawed Dem opponent). Of course, I predict, as usual, you will consider Bennett/Hayden/Graves "giants" instead of midgets.
"I know why I voted for him, but what was it, exactly, that convinced you that Tim Shallenberger was a rock-solid conservative? And if his views on abortion differed had from your's, which of his primary opponents would you have voted for and why?"
Shallenburger was the only logical choice. Too bad Graves and his RINOs sandbagged him. Can't let those filthy Conservatives win, y'know. They might actually accomplish something positive.
"She's lived here for 33 years so I think you can drop the 'carpetbagger' label. And I think she got her name from her husband."
33 years, huh ? Interesting, since that happens to be the year that her daddy, the worst Governor of Ohio in the last 100 years, was unceremoniously dumped for reelection. Interesting, too, that she just happened to marry the dunce son of a respected Conservative GOP former Congressman. But since Keith Sebelius was deceased, there was no way he could give his opinion on his Socialist daughter-in-law using the name to get herself elected to statewide office.
"But it was people like you, single issue Republicans from the moderate end of the party, who stayed home or defected that put Moore in."
Uh-uh, you can't have it both ways. Now YOU have the nerve to criticize your fellow pro-aborters for bringing down Snowbarger ?!? Tsk tsk.
"The same kind of people who stayed home when Phill ran two years later. And then it was the single-issue Republicans from the opposite end who sat out the Taff-Moore race."
You should be praising Conservatives for not voting for the RINO Taff, or did you forget he was later sentenced to prison ? It was also alleged that Taff was closeted gay. Yeah, he would've been a real bright star in Congress as a Republican. Of course, were he a rodent, all would be forgiven.
"And oh yes, there are people just like you, people who make abortion the single deciding factor in their support for a candidate as well. Those are the ones who won't vote for an abortion opponent regardless of their other political beliefs. They're no different in their way than you are in your's."
Nope, because one is voting based on basic morality and decency, the other on the polar opposite. Like I said, while other issues are important, if a candidate fails this basic test, it proves they have no moral grounding and can compromise away anything and everything else. Something you fail to grasp.