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Water into fuel?
http://www.wkyc.com ^ | 6/1/2007 | Michael O'Mara

Posted on 08/01/2007 8:46:09 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45

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To: chuckles

The interesting thing about the water tank, is that you may be able to dual-use the tank.

The water tank may be designed in as a part of the car’s ability to sustain a collision.


61 posted on 08/01/2007 11:13:09 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Just a nay sayer.

Yes, with an education that includes thermodynamics, so i know why to dismiss this foolishness. Beat up the issue all you want, clearly you can't comprehend why this won't work but, I and many others here, do.

62 posted on 08/01/2007 11:15:23 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: RinaseaofDs

Good point. Also could help with cooling, reducing the electric demand on the alternator. The warmer the water, the more complete the emuslification and combustion, too.


63 posted on 08/01/2007 11:17:03 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Clam Digger

Point to where I was beating up the issue. I merely wondered whether or not it would work. Climb off your high horse and maybe you can read what people post mr “educated”

Your education leaves you just as arrogant as other educated jerks I’ve know.


64 posted on 08/01/2007 11:22:07 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: Clam Digger

Point to where I was beating up the issue. I merely wondered whether or not it would work. Climb off your high horse and maybe you can read what people post mr “educated”

Your education leaves you just as arrogant as other educated jerks I’ve known.


65 posted on 08/01/2007 11:22:26 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: Clam Digger

Well, thermodynamics is only a hypothesis after all. Sterling cycle and probability and statistics and all that. They don’t thank Michelson and Morley and they won’t thank the old guy, he’s dead now anyway,


66 posted on 08/01/2007 11:30:49 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Clam Digger

One aspect of it that would require some design is performance in cold climates.

This sort of car would do well below 45 degrees latitude, but inland US, Canada, Alaska, etc.

You’d have to figure out how to at least keep it slushy.


67 posted on 08/01/2007 11:31:06 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Leatherneck_MT

I’m not “arrogant”, I’m just not ignorant. I don’t have a horse either.

When i don’t know about something, I admit it, and don’t try to rag on the people who understand the issue, i try to learn from them.


68 posted on 08/01/2007 11:33:35 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Leatherneck_MT

I’m not “arrogant”, I’m just not ignorant. I don’t have a horse either.

When i don’t know about something, I admit it, and don’t try to rag on the people who understand the issue, i try to learn from them.


69 posted on 08/01/2007 11:34:15 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Clam Digger

asking questions means I don’t know, if you read then you’ll understand. That’s why I was asking. Now if you don’t have anything constructive to add then we have nothing more to talk about.

The things I made negative comments about were the people who come on to threads like this and all they offer is ridicule and BS in order to make themselves look smarter.

Ok I give, you’re smarter.

Next


70 posted on 08/01/2007 11:41:08 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

When hydrogen and oxygen combine, energy is released in some form. We call this energy fire or, if fast enough, an explosion. The ash that is left after the fire or explosion (the energy release) is called water. To separate the ash (i.e., water) into hydrogen and oxygen again requires as much energy (an a little bit more actually) as was release when the water was created.


71 posted on 08/01/2007 11:45:18 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei (Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Ok I give, you’re smarter.

I will NEVER (OK, almost never) try to make that claim. Most of the truly smart people I know don't have the education I have. I know lot of well educaed people who are REALLY stupid. It goes both ways.

negative comments about were the people who come on to threads like this and all they offer is ridicule and BS

Because they've seen this kind of crap before. It's pretty readily dismissed.

72 posted on 08/01/2007 11:45:58 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Leatherneck_MT
How can I prove it?

When hydrogen is oxidized heat is released as the molecules
of 2 H2O (water) has less Gibbs Free Energy than a molecules of 2 H2 and O2

2H2 +02 = 2 H2O +release of energy as heat. To break the bond between the Oxygen and Hydrogen will require the same amount of energy as was released in the original reaction. That is if you were 100% efficient, which the process can not be. There “aint nothing” for free in thermodynamics and chemical reactions.

This whole idea is crap.

73 posted on 08/01/2007 11:48:51 AM PDT by cpdiii (Pharmacist, Pilot, Geologist, Oil Field Trash and proud of it.)
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To: Hiddigeigei

lol ok THAT I understand. Thank you.


74 posted on 08/01/2007 11:49:32 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: Clam Digger

So make your arguments without the snide comments. It goes over alot better and I assure you will win more people to your side.

People that come in with just “oh that won’t work LOL” I tend to tune out because they are acting like children.

Might I point out to you that others have tried to explain it to me and I did finally understand what one was saying.

Sorry if I didn’t get an education in thermodynamics. I spent most of my early adulthood learning how to blow things up not turn it into energy.


75 posted on 08/01/2007 11:52:37 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
learning how to blow things up

Applied science.

76 posted on 08/01/2007 11:54:33 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: cpdiii

Yes it was explained in an earlier response by someone else, thank you.


77 posted on 08/01/2007 11:54:34 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: RightWhale

Exactly


78 posted on 08/01/2007 11:55:24 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

I went to a military college, we did both.


79 posted on 08/01/2007 11:57:54 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: RightWhale

The laws of thermo are more than hypotheses. They are proven fact and cannot be violated.


80 posted on 08/01/2007 11:58:57 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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