Posted on 08/01/2007 7:00:48 AM PDT by George W. Bush
August 01, 2007, 5:00 a.m.
Fusion Candidate
The congressman from Texas has something for all conservatives.
By Todd Seavey
John Derbyshire is wrong to resist the Ron Paul Temptation. Embrace it. Embrace it: conservatives, libertarians, pro-lifers Right-minded Americans, all.
Sure, Paul, currently hovering in the single digits in polls, looks at first glance like a textbook case of a fringe candidate. And thats unfortunate, because he ought instead to be our next president and would be if he made it to the general election, since in a one-on-one match-up with likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, he could fare remarkably well.
That means Pauls greatest obstacle is the Republican primary process. Since he wants to do virtually everything conservatives have long dreamed of with the office of the presidency, whats stalling his chances is a herd-like desire to vote for the candidate who already seems likely to win the primaries. Democrats wont keep him from the White House; it would be tragic, then, if Republicans stopped him themselves.
Recall, first, the big issue that likely cost the Republicans control of Congress in 2006 and turned George Bush into a lame duck: the Iraq War. Now, thanks largely to testy comments from his fellow candidate Rudy Giuliani, Paul is known as the sole antiwar Republican candidate. I realize how strongly many of his fellow Republicans disagree with him on that issue Im not as isolationist on military matters as Paul either (almost no one is) and have long hoped that the Iraq effort will turn out better than expected.
But it now appears that even the unambitious goal of stopping frequent bombings in Baghdad is proving to be, shall we all admit, tricky. And since the pro-war position is widely regarded as the thing dragging Republican congressional candidates down in 06 and prospective Republican presidential candidates down in the polls for 08, it would be a delightful turn if antiwar sentiment ended up redounding to the advantage of conservatives, in the form of Ron Pauls election.
And think of the undeserved riches that would then be ours: Paul is an across-the-board libertarian on economic issues. He wants to abolish most Cabinet agencies (aside from State, Justice, and a radically whittled-down Defense). He has tried (unsuccessfully) to return the U.S. to the gold standard and has made clear his desire to dismantle the IRS immediately
And for those who say it cant happen, heres the beauty part: Get Paul through the primaries, to the Republican nomination, and he has the tools to take on Hillary. He plainly gets the libertarian swing voters that the Republicans lost in 2006, he should garner most conservative votes when contrasted with Hillary, and heres the clincher he gets a huge share of the bourgeoning antiwar vote to boot. Think about it: Clinton has already alienated the substantial antiwar faction of the Democratic party, while Ron Paul has inspired a supportive banner even at an anarchist rally full of hippies and punks, urging people to join the Ron Paul love revolution.
But dont let that fool you into thinking hes some flower-child. A seventy-two-year-old conservative Texan, Ron Paul is also one of the most pro-life members of Congress, wants better border enforcement, and, as a doctor, prefers to allow the states to manage the war on drugs, rather than praising drugs, as some less cautious libertarians are prone to do.
Presto! The much-lamented divide between social conservatives and fiscal conservatives, which has seemed to be widening lately, is eliminated. As has oft been said, Republicans tend to fare best when they pursue the program (pioneered by National Review and praised last year by Ryan Sager in his book Elephant in the Room) called fusionism, yoking together social conservatism and the libertarian desire to shrink government. Both Giuliani and McCain, for example, have some fusionist qualities, sounding tough on military matters and fiscal matters but no ones more fusionist than a pro-lifer who genuinely wants to dismantle the entire welfare state. And if youre nervous about Pauls going too far, keep in mind the president only executes the laws he doesnt make them. There are limits to what even a president can do, but itd sure be nice to have one pushing in a small-government conservative direction for the first time since Reagan, and arguably the first time since Coolidge.
Continuing conservative support for the Iraq war is certainly an issue (note that Paul voted for the Afghan war, so hes not a complete pacifist), but surely its not the be-all and end-all of conservatism. As popular support for the war fades, and if we do not meet with the successes forecast by the architects of the surge, might not even the most pro-war conservatives be willing to budge a bit on that possibly doomed and politically damning issue? Hawks may be reluctant to shift, but for many conservatives it may well be worth it to have a president with true conservative values.
Do conservatives not really want all the things Paul has to offer? Then why do we fight at all? If its merely for power and mainstream acceptance, one might as well support Hillary Clinton or wait until after November 2008 and support whoever comes out on top. But if we want a radically smaller government precisely that thing that a Republican Congress neglected to do for the last twelve years, which has created the current mood of conservative frustration we must support Ron Paul. Remember how small government was at the nations founding and consider how perhaps even conservatives have since then become de facto socialists, accepting the leviathan state as inevitable. But its not inevitable if they vote against it when history hands them that chance.
Todd Seavey lives in New York City and blogs at ToddSeavey.com.
The author is delusional. Paul is the worst possible opponent to Hillary. He has zero charisma and looks like a deer in the headlights when in front of a camera.
Exactly!! This points toward maybe more than a little “assistance” from the klinton camp.
Yeah, I know we are still a long way out from Nov. 08, but how could anyone with any rationality think Congressman Paul has a snowball’s chance?
See? I knew they sat around wearing Star Trek uniforms and Spock ears and stuff. ;-)
Would you be happy with another 4 years of Bush.
Read 'em and weep, all you Paul-hating big-government trolls. Two-thirds of his support is from troops, matched by McStain. And the other pro-war GOP candidates can't break $2600! Your denials and fantasies have been exploded by ArmyTimes, well, unless they're another Leftie rag. LOL.From the August 6 edition of The Army Times (print edition only, not online):
Washington
Surprise fave among troops
WHAT'S UP: Among Republicans running for president, the anti-war candidate Texas Rep. Ron Paul has the highest total of campaign contributionns from service members, according to the most recent Federal Election Commission reports. Paul collected $14,840 from service members, slightly more than the $14,775 collected by Arizona Sen. John McCain, a supporter of the war in Iraq. The other Republican candidates got $2,600 or less from contributors who identified themselves as service members.
WHAT'S NEXT: Paul, who served as a flight surgeon in the Air Force in the 1960s, and McCain, a Navy pilot who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam, could not be further apart in their views of the Iraq war, which is the biggest military issue so far in the 2008 campaign that is just beginning. The current front-runner in the race, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, received $2,550 from military contributors, the FEC report shows.
Earlier related threads:[note to the Ron Paul cadre: we have two good RP threads already. We may post this tidbit as a thread tonight or tomorrow because we don't want to abuse FR with RP articles, especially since the other campaigns are so boring and dead in the water at present. Certainly, it isn't our fault that RP gets so much attention but we should be reasonable, I think.]
Delusional. Obsessed. But so very amusing. :-)
But is she a TROPHY wife?!?!?? That seems to be an issue these days...
Ron Paul threads are like bug zappers. Those attacted to them are left to decide who are the bugs and who are the picnickers.
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Nonsense! - the numbers are doctored or the question was asked wrong or DU'ers voted (or sumpthin'...(trailing off muttering)
My biggest concern is Giuliani. I fear a Democrat victory if he is our nominee.
Well, let's look at it: if Hunter got the nod, he would be grilled mercilessly in the media about earmarks for certain equipment the military doesn't want. He would be grilled by insinuation about Randy Duke Cunningham, Abu Graib, and Titan Corp.
Ron Paul - well, he would face the same trial by insinuation slurs he has faced here vis-a-vis association with right wing racists and anti-semites (aka the dirt that I think comes from his Houston buddy and 1988 presidential rival, GHWB and buds).
Fred - he is a cypher. I think he can only win as an anti-Hillary, but that may be enough. His facade will not carry him through the primaries once he announces. His voting record may appeal to mainstream party straddlers more than Republicans; don't know what dirt Hillary and Friends® may find.
Rudy - He's lost to Hillary once.
Others?
“Seems to me that it is more true to say that the guy who gave us BJ was actually named George Bush.”
IMO the guy who gave us Clinton was named “Ross Perot.” Whenever one ‘side’ (conservative or liberal) splits between two candidates and the other doesn’t, the side that doesn’t wins. In this same sense the ‘guy who gave us W’ is named “Ralph Nader.”
B) Where does it say anywhere the employers of all contributors have been independently verified?
Donors are asked to specify their employer. You're telling me the federal government is following up on this information from every individual contributor to make sure they're all telling the truth? (Ironically, this might be the first time I've ever seen self-described "libertarians" touting the government's ability to gather personal information about private citizens.)
I don't buy it. And given the way Paul's supporters have conducted themselves in a manner similar to Truthers and Kos Kids with their relentless spamming, there's no good reason to believe they're telling the truth about who they work for. The most notable thing about Paul's campaign thus far has been the campaign of mass deception waged by his rabid supporters. There's no reason in the world to believe this is any different.
R = whatever you want
D = everything, regardless of whether you want it
Whenever the choice is between a big-government liberal (Rudy) and a big-government liberal (Hillary!), it should come as no huge surprise we keep electing the big-government liberal.
No thanks. I'm done voting for the lesser evil.
Ron Paul for the primary. And I'll probably write him in for the general, if necessary.
Wow. That’s impressive.
You're right about the Reagan agenda. It's what I am hoping for in Fred.
Would you be happy with another 4 years of Carter?
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