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To: PetroniusMaximus
No. It is one example of real occultic things (in this case, a very famous occultist) hidding in HP.

By your logic, if JKR wrote about a Minister of Magic named Michael Gorbachev who tried to implement magic socialism but she made him out to be a bumbling, moronic idiot, you'd call it support for communism.

Your ignorance in not having actually read what you're criticizing is apparent. Divination is made to look like a joke. No one in their rational mind could call what JKR wrote about divination occultic.

I knew all I needed to know about you when you talked about having seen all 5 movies just to see how the occult was infiltrating America. People goofy enough to say that they spent 11 hours watching movies about a topic they abhor for "research purposes" will say anything.
889 posted on 08/02/2007 5:07:46 PM PDT by TexasAg1996
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To: TexasAg1996
. No one in their rational mind could call what JKR wrote about divination occultic.

You are assuming facts that are not in evidence...

890 posted on 08/02/2007 5:09:55 PM PDT by null and void (Whale oil: The carbon neutral, renewable petroleum alternative)
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To: TexasAg1996
“Divination is made to look like a joke.”

Not entirely....

“There are many red flags in the Harry Potter books. One of these is the role of divination in Book Three (Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban): Hogwarts provides a divination course (albeit one that some of the students and faculty find nebulous in authenticity). It is certainly logical that a young student witch or wizard would study divination; the problem is that the practice is expressly forbidden in Deuteronomy. The reference (in Book Three) to the Egyptian wizards and the potential educational value of a visit to Egypt offers an interestingly arcane — if you’ll permit me the word — challenge to Christian belief: Hermione comments, “Did you see that picture of Ron and his family a week ago? I bet he’s learning loads. I’m really jealous — the ancient Egyptian wizards were fascinating.” At home, Christian children are learning a very different story about the Egyptian magicians, in Exodus 7:8–13, where the Egyptian magicians attempt to demonstrate their powers as superior to those of God as exercised through Moses and Aaron. When the Egyptian magicians react to the transformation of Aaron’s rod into a serpent by doing the same with their rods, God provides once again, and Aaron’s rod-serpent swallows theirs. This is a very important story in some faiths, including most conservative Christian sects, and some parents may feel that Hermione’s commentary indicates approval of the Egyptian magicians’ work. It might also concern them that the link indicates similarities between what the Egyptian magicians did and what Harry, Hermione, and Ron are learning to do: these students are, in some ways, the educational heirs to the Egyptian magicians.”

http://www.hbook.com/magazine/articles/2000/may00_gish.asp

“I knew all I needed to know about you when you talked about having seen all 5 movies just to see how the occult was infiltrating America.”

I have watched many movies to learn about the rise of occultims in childrens entertainment. 5 movies over 5 years is no big investment.

But there’s no way to win with many here. I’m an ignoramous for not reading the books and a hypocrite for having seen the movies.

908 posted on 08/03/2007 10:09:25 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: TexasAg1996
“Divination is made to look like a joke.”

Not entirely....

“There are many red flags in the Harry Potter books. One of these is the role of divination in Book Three (Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban): Hogwarts provides a divination course (albeit one that some of the students and faculty find nebulous in authenticity). It is certainly logical that a young student witch or wizard would study divination; the problem is that the practice is expressly forbidden in Deuteronomy. The reference (in Book Three) to the Egyptian wizards and the potential educational value of a visit to Egypt offers an interestingly arcane — if you’ll permit me the word — challenge to Christian belief: Hermione comments, “Did you see that picture of Ron and his family a week ago? I bet he’s learning loads. I’m really jealous — the ancient Egyptian wizards were fascinating.” At home, Christian children are learning a very different story about the Egyptian magicians, in Exodus 7:8–13, where the Egyptian magicians attempt to demonstrate their powers as superior to those of God as exercised through Moses and Aaron. When the Egyptian magicians react to the transformation of Aaron’s rod into a serpent by doing the same with their rods, God provides once again, and Aaron’s rod-serpent swallows theirs. This is a very important story in some faiths, including most conservative Christian sects, and some parents may feel that Hermione’s commentary indicates approval of the Egyptian magicians’ work. It might also concern them that the link indicates similarities between what the Egyptian magicians did and what Harry, Hermione, and Ron are learning to do: these students are, in some ways, the educational heirs to the Egyptian magicians.”

http://www.hbook.com/magazine/articles/2000/may00_gish.asp

“I knew all I needed to know about you when you talked about having seen all 5 movies just to see how the occult was infiltrating America.”

I have watched many movies to learn about the rise of occultism in children's entertainment. 5 movies over 5 years is no big investment.

But there’s no way to win with many here. I’m an ignoramus for not reading the books and a hypocrite for having seen the movies.

909 posted on 08/03/2007 10:09:37 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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