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Harry Potter: 3 More Things I Learned
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| 8/1/07
| John Mark Reynolds
Posted on 08/01/2007 6:59:32 AM PDT by ParsifalCA
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To: Ramius
Next thing you know hes gonna try to say that Monty Python lied about the whole grail thing.
He's already got one.
481
posted on
08/01/2007 1:54:50 PM PDT
by
TalonDJ
To: TalonDJ
It’s not about the dabbling though, the reality is the vast majority of gamers, heavy metal fans, and Potter fans will never have any dabbling in the occult, and the ones that do were gonna do it anyway and aren’t statistically more significant than in any other entertainment demographic.
482
posted on
08/01/2007 1:55:40 PM PDT
by
discostu
(indecision may or may not be my biggest problem)
To: PetroniusMaximus
That is a load of lies.
People who try to argue the evils of Harry Potter while LYING are pretty pathetic.
483
posted on
08/01/2007 1:56:58 PM PDT
by
Politicalmom
(Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
To: null and void
Go back and re-read EVERYTHING I wrote on this thread. They are accurate regarding children’s books that deal in the occult, I offered no opinion either way if this applied to the Harry Potter books or not.
484
posted on
08/01/2007 1:57:17 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: PetroniusMaximus
Corin, you make fun of all this. No, at this point, I'm pretty much just making fun of you.
As a Christian, dont you believe that some occultists have real powers?
Yes, I believe in, and quite frankly have seen evidence of (fodder for another thread), the powers of the occult.
But, unlike you, I have read the Harry Potter books.
And I know the differnce.
485
posted on
08/01/2007 1:57:55 PM PDT
by
Corin Stormhands
(I drink coffee for your protection.)
To: dmz
one could say all fiction is a pack of lies. If you ever read L.M. Montgomery (Anne of Green Gables, etc.), lots of the older people portrayed thought that very thing. It actually has been a widespread attitude. I think the same attitude is shown in some Louisa May Alcott characters, but those who hold that view are clearly narrow-minded and ill-educated.
486
posted on
08/01/2007 1:58:19 PM PDT
by
maryz
To: PetroniusMaximus
These women, unless the repent, will open their eyes in hell the moment after they breath their last breath.So the male witches I know are safe?
487
posted on
08/01/2007 1:59:39 PM PDT
by
null and void
(Whale oil: The carbon neutral, renewable petroleum alternative)
To: Durus
I dont think you and I would exactly agree on the point of the book, however, there is a fundamental difference between justice and vengeance.The word justice usually implies working within the law. At any rate, neither Dumbledore nor Harry would have approved.
488
posted on
08/01/2007 2:00:06 PM PDT
by
js1138
To: Corin Stormhands
“Actually you should consider being quiet because you’re embarrassing yourself.”
I’m not embarrassed. I have not lied - nor have I misrepresented anything I believe. Occultism is real. It is an abomination to God and HP has turned it into morally-neutral entertainment for kids.
“was that you say you don’t have time to waste reading the Potter books, but you’ve been here the better part of the afternoon talking about the Potter books.”
Why would I need to read the books when I’ve seen the movies? I don’t need to read her description of automatic writing - it is a black art. It doen’t matter whether the film does it justice or not.
To: Corin Stormhands
My oldest came home from kindergarten and told us that the "South Americans killed Abraham Lincoln."Those Bas**rds! We MUST close the southern border NOW, before they kill again!
Mark
490
posted on
08/01/2007 2:01:15 PM PDT
by
MarkL
(Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
To: PetroniusMaximus
Occultism, and occultic power is VERY real. Harry Potter, for the most part, is not the real thing - but it exposes children to the occultic world and can create in them a desire for the real thing.
You know, I faced this kind of an argument from my mother way back in the day over D&D, I pulled an article for her about a guy who started believing he was a chess piece.
People do dumb stuff, if you are going to do something dumb, no one can stop you by forbidding you to read a book, or play a game.
Show me one instance where HP lead to the occult, surely you can find one, right?
Don't bother us with trying to prove a negative until you have some evidence of a positive, OK FRiend?
491
posted on
08/01/2007 2:01:44 PM PDT
by
DelphiUser
("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
To: PetroniusMaximus; discostu; Ramius; TalonDJ; Tax-chick; SuziQ
Why would I need to read the books when Ive seen the movies? I give up.
492
posted on
08/01/2007 2:02:14 PM PDT
by
Corin Stormhands
(I drink coffee for your protection.)
To: TalonDJ
My wife could read them three times. But I turned her into a newt. I've been tempted to turn *my* wife into a newt many times, especially when I return home and see that she's got that danged grail-shaped lantern lit. Alas, I just can't stay mad at her... ;-)
493
posted on
08/01/2007 2:02:48 PM PDT
by
Charles Martel
(The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
To: discostu
Its not about the dabbling though, the reality is the vast majority of gamers, heavy metal fans, and Potter fans will never have any dabbling in the occult, and the ones that do were gonna do it anyway and arent statistically more significant than in any other entertainment demographic.
As a Christian that enjoys all three I would have to disagree with you on the heavy metal thing. Not that everyone that listens is a satanist, just that there is probably a statistically higher percentage. My point is some of the most screwed up kids I have met were trying hard to run toward from everything everyone told them was bad just because. Spending all their time in the oxymoron of trying to fit in with the crowd they thing does not fit in. This is not a commentary on you. It sounds like you have already seen the risks of this path. Not that it takes blame totally off the holy roller types for being that way but running the other way just because can be risky. Kids don't have to get into a cult to have problems from this.
494
posted on
08/01/2007 2:03:27 PM PDT
by
TalonDJ
To: Ingtar
“...It has no reall connection...”
It needn’t be real - just close enough. The author took liberties - but she is referencing real stuff.
To: PetroniusMaximus
Way to doge the point. Harry is a wizard whether or not there’s a Hogwarts or he ever goes. Harry, like all the other wizards, has innate powers, innate power that were the story written by Christ Claremont would have been called “mutant powers” but instead it was written by Jo Rowling so she called them “magic powers”. The powers are there invitation or no, he can learn to use them invitation or no.
Then of course there’s the whole lie that one must be “invited” into occult groups. You’ve seen the books in the book store, people can learn all about the occult without ever getting any invitation, then they can make their own group.
496
posted on
08/01/2007 2:03:36 PM PDT
by
discostu
(indecision may or may not be my biggest problem)
To: Tijeras_Slim
That is why it is the official beer of the Steelers. If you are tough enough to drink IC Light in any quantity, you are sure tough enough to play football.
To: Revolting cat!
Bingo!! Be prepared for the potterites to savage you for such comments.
To: Steelerfan
I have an aversion to IC in any form. Probably comes from living near Pittsburgh in the 70’s and being a Redskins fan.
It doesn’t get much worse than that.
To: ReignOfError
I agree the books are ok for young children. For HS and beyond they are more akin to comic books.
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