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Cannabis joint hits lungs like 5 cigarettes (alarmism strikes again)
ABC Australia ^ | 31 July 2007 | Too ashamed to say

Posted on 08/01/2007 6:18:22 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty

Smoking a single joint of cannabis has the same impact on breathing capacity as up to five cigarettes, a new study shows.

The researchers say this may be because cannabis users tend to inhale more deeply and, because joints are smoked without a filter, the smoke is hotter when it hits the lungs.

Researchers from the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand publish their findings online in the journal Thorax.

Doctors recruited 339 volunteers who were divided into four categories: those who smoked only cannabis, those who smoked only tobacco, those who smoked both, and those who smoked neither.

Cannabis-only smokers were defined as those who had smoked the equivalent of at least one joint a day for five years; tobacco-only smokers were those who had smoked the equivalent of a packet of cigarettes a day for at least a year.

The participants were scanned by computed tomography (CT) to get a high-definition image of their lungs and were given tests to assess their airflow, or respiratory efficiency.

The researchers found the most serious damage in tobacco smokers - both tobacco-only and combined users - who were the only volunteers to have emphysema, a degenerative and crippling lung disease.

Cannabis smokers had lighter symptoms, such as wheeze, cough, chest tightness and phlegm, which tobacco smokers also had.

But the CT scan also revealed that, among cannabis smokers, fine damage had occurred to their lungs.

(Excerpt) Read more at abc.net.au ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: addled; cannabis; confiscation; fascism; freedom; fryyourbrain; letsgetstupid; marijuana; medicine; stupidity; whoneedsabrain; wodlist; zealotry
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To: NCLaw441

You are thinking too hard. ;-)


101 posted on 08/01/2007 1:37:04 PM PDT by Valpal1 ("I know the fittest have not survived when I watch Congress on CSPAN.")
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To: wardaddy

A work of art.


102 posted on 08/01/2007 2:11:41 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: PreciousLiberty

Dihydrogen Monoxide is dangerous stuff.


103 posted on 08/01/2007 3:10:09 PM PDT by monkfan
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Try suicide, fail, and see how fast your property gets incarcerated in the looney bin.


104 posted on 08/01/2007 3:30:32 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: NCLaw441
I think I’d be ok with legalized drugs and no helmet or seat belt laws, provided govt (that is, taxpayers) could not be required to foot any bills caused by the lifestyle choices people make. Until then, it is a tricky situation.

Do you think the government should "foot the bill" for people injured in automobile accidents?

If not, should we make driving a car illegal?

105 posted on 08/01/2007 3:33:44 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: PreciousLiberty

Pot is 50 times as potent today as 30 years ago. No one smokes more than a few joints a day. Most people do it once a year. Legalize it and tax it. Just like booze.


106 posted on 08/01/2007 3:35:39 PM PDT by spyone
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To: PreciousLiberty

Its not alarmism...you’re just a damned pothead.


107 posted on 08/01/2007 3:39:31 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: PreciousLiberty

“Thoughts?”

You don’t drink the bong water?


108 posted on 08/01/2007 3:41:39 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

One joint a day? They must be getting lousy dope, or have a high (no pun intended....or was it?) tolerance.

So if one joint equals five cigarettes, they’d still need to smoke four to be up there with the average tobacco smoker.


109 posted on 08/01/2007 5:50:48 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: PreciousLiberty

We breath in 100s of toxic compounds every day from vehicles, factories, appliances etc. etc. Even the steam and smoke from cooking food is bad for our lungs.


110 posted on 08/01/2007 5:52:42 PM PDT by LukeL (Never let the enemy pick the battle site. (Gen. George S. Patton))
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To: DesScorp
See my last post re. ad hominem attacks. It gets tiring repeating the same points over and over. ;-)

Stick to the actual arguments please.

111 posted on 08/01/2007 6:35:24 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Doe Eyes

I don’t think government should pay for medical care. That is a personal responsibility. Driving cars should not be illegal as it is not an inherently dangerous thing to do.


112 posted on 08/02/2007 2:34:44 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: PreciousLiberty
I think it would happen just because enough folks are health conscious and concerned about smoking anything these days that they’d eat it instead if they could afford it.

Possibly, but there is nothing to stop them from eating it now.

I've often been told by libertarians who are in favor of making marijuana legal that people who use it for 'medical' purposes smoke it rather than eat it because the relief they supposedly get isn't as potent or as quick when it gets eaten. The same would be true, of course, for those who use it only to get high. I don't see them eating it if it takes longer to get that way, nor if the 'high' isn't as 'high'.

113 posted on 08/02/2007 5:41:06 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Ad Hominem my ass. I was speaking of the article author, but if you’re a pot smoker, that goes for you too. Drugs SHOULD be illegal. Where drugs are tolerated, crime and scum inevitably follow.


114 posted on 08/02/2007 7:30:46 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Vermont Lt
Marijuana laws are like gun laws.

Some people are responsible owners of firearms — some aren’t.

Some people are responsible smokers of ganja — some aren’t.

So, to control the people that aren’t responsible, the government makes the inanimate object (guns, pot, whatever) illegal.

115 posted on 08/02/2007 7:40:24 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: PreciousLiberty

True about alcohol. If canabis use were as prevalent as alcohol all alcohol-related social effects would at least double.

And if cannabis prevents Alzheimers then beef steak prevents heart attacks.


116 posted on 08/02/2007 7:59:21 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: John Leland 1789
Okay, so a kid has a Constitutional right to look this way. It doesn’t mean I’m required to feel safe or comfortable around him, or give him permission to telephone my daughters.

LOL! I have sons, thankfully, knowing there are guys like this out there. If I had daughters, I don't think I would ever sleep. But I will say this, constitutional right or not, I would never allow my sons to look like this.

117 posted on 08/02/2007 8:18:47 AM PDT by Vasilli22
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To: Vasilli22
“LOL! I have sons, thankfully, knowing there are guys like this out there. If I had daughters, I don’t think I would ever sleep. But I will say this, constitutional right or not, I would never allow my sons to look like this.”

Right! My sons are not allowed to look this way. By the way, even the Constitution is subject to Dad’s laws in our house. Inside my doors, I determine what is and isn’t free speech, or free anything else, for that matter.
118 posted on 08/02/2007 8:44:18 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: DesScorp

“Ad Hominem my ass. I was speaking of the article author, but if you’re a pot smoker, that goes for you too. Drugs SHOULD be illegal. Where drugs are tolerated, crime and scum inevitably follow.”

You mean drugs like alcohol and tobacco? I’m no more of a fan of the BATF than anyone, but calling them ‘scum’ seems a bit extreme.

You might also want to take a look at the Netherlands, where cannabis is legal and they have no more problem with it than we do here - in fact less of one in many ways. They certainly aren’t spending taxpayer money and ruining lives over it to the extent we are here.


119 posted on 08/02/2007 10:03:54 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Rennes Templar

“True about alcohol. If canabis use were as prevalent as alcohol all alcohol-related social effects would at least double.”

Interesting theory, but I really doubt it. Tests of folks driving under the influence of marijuana have generally shown they’re no more dangerous than straight drivers.

Quite a contrast with alcohol there.

“And if cannabis prevents Alzheimers then beef steak prevents heart attacks.”

I’m sure the researchers involved appreciate your learned opinion. ;-)


120 posted on 08/02/2007 10:09:47 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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