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1 posted on 07/31/2007 4:49:43 PM PDT by SandRat
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2 posted on 07/31/2007 4:51:06 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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You know, I’m all for the truth, but are our generals now required to investigate every death during a war to determine if it was anyones fault? Seems to me, that in a war sh*t happens, even to a great guy like Tillman.


4 posted on 07/31/2007 4:54:47 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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some perfect storm..


5 posted on 07/31/2007 4:55:23 PM PDT by brivette
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"...should have been notified much, much sooner that the soldier had actually died by accidental friendly fire..."

It wasn't accidental, it was negligent. This allegedly "elite" force fired at their own people, even though they didn't know where their other troops were and they had been ordered to cease firing. The men who kept firing despite warnings and Tillman yelling and gesturing should be rigorously punished and their leaders - the ones responsible for training and discipline - should also be punished.

Then they should go after the liars that tried to hide the truth. There is no room in a fighting force for people without the moral courage to tell the truth.

10 posted on 07/31/2007 5:09:50 PM PDT by USMCVet
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Lt. Gen. Philip Kensinger is a d*mn fine man. Anyone who questions his honor, integrity, loyalty or service doesn't have a d*mn clue what they are talking about - He is a fine SF officer -

This is a situation, where the top has accepted responsibility rather than pass the buck down (to where the original AAR weren't as accurate as they could/should have been).

Bottom line is one half of soldiers from this Ranger unit was engaged by enemy fire - Ranger Tillman, a fellow Ranger (and an ANA member) doubled back to see if they could be of support - They came upon the ridge after the initial engagement was over - At that time the Afghani and Ranger Tillman were KIA via blue on blue fire....

It awful, but it happens.

God bless Ranger Tillman, he was a hell of a man. But this situation is disgustingly being blown into something it is not. There is no cover-up, there is no conspiracy.

18 posted on 07/31/2007 6:04:33 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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Geren cited Kensinger for multiple failures, including failing to initiate a timely Army safety investigation into Tillman’s death, giving false statements during follow on investigations

Uhhhhh......this is ambiguous. Lying or giving false statements. Unless he knowingly gave false statements, it's not a lie.

Which is it?

Starting to smell like the general is a sacrificial lamb to satisfy the media's blood lust.

25 posted on 08/01/2007 10:15:58 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (NY Times: "fake but accurate")
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