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No, Iraq war's not lost
NY Daily News ^ | July 31 2007

Posted on 07/31/2007 8:52:44 AM PDT by knighthawk

There are many who cannot bear the suggestion that reenergized American military operations under Gen. David Petraeus are making headway, and yesterday they were shocked by Brookings Institution think-tankers who, writing in The New York Times, allow that Iraq is today "a war we just might win."

Michael O'Hanlon and Kenneth Pollack have been harshly critical of the war's prosecution in the past. But now, returned from eight days at the front, they point to the turnaround in Anbar Province, the plunging civilian fatality rates and the improving performance of Iraqi security forces as signs things may at last be working.

O'Hanlon and Pollack admit "the situation in Iraq remains grave," notably the failure of Iraqi politicians to govern cohesively. But they still conclude there "is enough good happening on the battlefields of Iraq today that Congress should plan on sustaining the effort at least into 2008." There's a clear memo to those who are pushing for withdrawal. What a nuisance it is to hear from people who have looked at the facts.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brookings; iraq; kennethpollack; michaelohanlon
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1 posted on 07/31/2007 8:52:47 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: MizSterious; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; keri; ...

Ping


2 posted on 07/31/2007 8:53:19 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk
"What a nuisance it is to hear from people who have looked at the facts."

BWHAAAA

3 posted on 07/31/2007 8:57:11 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: knighthawk

We need to withdraw from Iraq.

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4 posted on 07/31/2007 8:59:30 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: knighthawk
This is definitely the worst kind of news for Democrats who want the war on terrorism to fail. The entire Democrat presidential campaign was to be waged on the failure of the Bsuh administration to win in Iraq.

The only option left to Dems is to consider a military coup attempt and take over the government in Washington by force. Maybe they could hire NATO Blue Helmets to do the job.

5 posted on 07/31/2007 8:59:31 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: knighthawk
Harry Reid says the debate is over, The War is Lost.
6 posted on 07/31/2007 8:59:58 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: knighthawk

We’ve been doing much better than the MSM has reported from the beginning. Only now our success is undeniable. The MSM are covering themselves by claiming the “surge” is a big change in the course of things.

We’ve been exterminating terrorists from day one.


7 posted on 07/31/2007 9:00:50 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: knighthawk

bump


8 posted on 07/31/2007 9:01:07 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: knighthawk
O’Hanlon and Pollack admit “the situation in Iraq remains grave,” notably the failure of American politicians to govern cohesively.
9 posted on 07/31/2007 9:08:07 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: knighthawk

It is with bitter amusement that we notice the efforts to bring about defeat and criticize the Iraqi government by the RATs in Congress and the Senate. They did exactly the same thing to end the Viet Nam war and bring about the slaughter of millions in Viet Nam and Cambodia. The RATs (especially Obama Hussein), have already said they don’t care if millions die after we pull out of Iraq. They are the world’s leaders in promoting genocide. So much for their concern for people.


10 posted on 07/31/2007 9:09:42 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: knighthawk
Iraq is today "a war we just might win

Reid and Pelosi may get fired for this. They haven't worked hard enough to lose the war and they haven't fought hard enough to hand the enemy the victory they've been seeking for 5 years.

Perhaps there's still time for the defeatists to surrender, but they're going to have a harder time doing it.
11 posted on 07/31/2007 9:09:44 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Poincare

...”We’ve been exterminating terrorists from day one.”

Exactly. From Afghanistan, to Iraq, to the Philippines, to the Horn of Africa, and to many places in the shadows globally islamic nazis are being stacked up like cordwood. But, the democrat party and its propaganda mouthpiece - “MSM” - have a vested interest in “Bush’s failure” so all that has been heard since the 9/11 attacks has been dismal. Remember the “quagmire” little more than 2 weeks into OEF, and similarly two weeks into OIF 1 with the sandstorms?

Despicable nattering nabobs of negativity.


12 posted on 07/31/2007 9:14:36 AM PDT by astounded
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To: knighthawk

Amazing that this is coming from the NY Daily News, which is usually as liberal as the NY Times. It appears to be an “official” editorial and not just one op-ed writer?? Would not have expected them to look at reality like this.

The ‘RATs in DC will either be passing out Jim Jones Kool-aid or else they will viciously counter-attack as they realize their anti-war gambit is failing and the public will start to see them for the worthless weasels they are.


13 posted on 07/31/2007 9:35:40 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Paulus Invictus
They did exactly the same thing to end the Viet Nam war and bring about the slaughter of millions in Viet Nam and Cambodia.
How can you say that? Why, I just heard John Kerry say again, just the other day, that there was no bloodbath when we left Vietnam. (He was in Vietnam, you know. Just in case you hadn't heard.)
14 posted on 07/31/2007 9:40:58 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: adorno
Reid and Pelosi may get fired for this

Actually, I think this is the NYT's way of sending a message to the Dem rank and file that these two are going to drive the Democrat Party over a cliff and that they must be dumped.

15 posted on 07/31/2007 9:53:00 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is ing America's George Galloway?)
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To: knighthawk

Dems had better cut off the funding immediately, to make sure we lose. Good news could jeopardize the next elections by taking their only issue — moaning about Bush and Iraq — off the table.


16 posted on 07/31/2007 10:13:43 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: knighthawk

The Dhimmi’s new talking point is that “we’re winning the military war, but we’re losing the political war because Iraq won’t step to the plate and take charge.”


17 posted on 07/31/2007 10:25:11 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: Enchante
The ‘RATs in DC will either be passing out Jim Jones Kool-aid or else they will viciously counter-attack as they realize their anti-war gambit is failing and the public will start to see them for the worthless weasels they are.

They will counter attack along the lines; 'yes, we may have experienced short term military success ... but, this is more than offset by lack of political gain in Iraq. Iraq is in the throes of a civil war.'

18 posted on 07/31/2007 10:26:05 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: samtheman
"I just heard John Kerry say again, just the other day, that there was no bloodbath when we left Vietnam."

Kerry was right, there was no bloodbath at the exact moment in time our troops left Vietnam... it happened 2 years later. He failed to mention that the resulting bloodbath came because of the cowardly and crass Democrat Congressional betrayal of a treaty ally, South Vietnam.

This makes him and his party more directly responsible in ways that aren't even touched on by the reality of the American pullout. What Kerry and the Democrats did wasn't just malfeasance or policy incompetence, it was treason, plain and simple.

19 posted on 07/31/2007 10:43:22 AM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: BallyBill
Harry Reid says the debate is over, The War is Lost.


20 posted on 07/31/2007 10:46:37 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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