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To: Coyoteman
"And more complexity in the distant past is no problem; evolution works from simple to complex or from complex to simple. It is only the strawman version creationists peddle that says everything always has to increase in complexity."

I think you may be unfamiliar with creation theory. Almost all creationists believe in rapid degradation (movement from complexity to simplicity). The latter involves no new DNA, no new information, merely a single negative mutation. It can happen in a single generation. This does not conflict with creation theory, indeed to the extent that most creationists come from a christian world-view, information reduction harmonizes well with the christian understanding that all creation is "fallen" from it's ideal state and in a process of ongoing corruption.

One of the reasons I find the evolutionary establishment difficult to trust, is that it is rare to find an evolutionist capable of comprehending that adding information is of necessity a very different process from losing information. If producing a novel the same as stomping on a novel and tearing out some pages? No. They are two utterly different processes and cannot be substituted the one for the other. Most well-known arguments for evolution fail to make this distinction.

204 posted on 07/30/2007 7:43:29 PM PDT by cookcounty (Famous Quotes: "I have not yet begun to fight!! ...and I'm so terribly exhausted!" --Capt Harry Reid)
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To: cookcounty
I think you may be unfamiliar with creation theory. Almost all creationists believe in rapid degradation (movement from complexity to simplicity). The latter involves no new DNA, no new information, merely a single negative mutation. It can happen in a single generation. This does not conflict with creation theory, indeed to the extent that most creationists come from a christian world-view, information reduction harmonizes well with the christian understanding that all creation is "fallen" from it's ideal state and in a process of ongoing corruption.

I am sufficiently familiar with creation "theory" to know that it is based on scripture, not science. It will say anything necessary to support scripture, and to deny any science that contradicts scripture.

One of the reasons I find the evolutionary establishment difficult to trust, is that it is rare to find an evolutionist capable of comprehending that adding information is of necessity a very different process from losing information. If producing a novel the same as stomping on a novel and tearing out some pages? No. They are two utterly different processes and cannot be substituted the one for the other. Most well-known arguments for evolution fail to make this distinction.

Your analogy fails in that organisms are not books. Mutations happen all the time. Most are benign, and generally don't mean anything. Some are favorable -- under certain conditions. And some are lethal: game over!

To follow your analogy, those "stomping on a novel and tearing out some pages" mutations are gone immediately. Big deal. Natural selection happens.

Adding information: Actually in most cases mutations are changing information. There is often a range of variation in a trait (skin color, for example). Dark skin colors fare better in hot climates while light skin colors fare better in low sunlight.

Selection -- well, it selects for those best adapted to the particular environment. And this is occurring simultaneously for hundreds of traits!

210 posted on 07/30/2007 7:53:06 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: cookcounty
it is rare to find an evolutionist capable of comprehending that adding information is of necessity a very different process from losing information

I am a practicing scientist and have no idea what you are talking about.

220 posted on 07/30/2007 8:16:26 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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