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"Attempted infringment" appears in new House intellectual property bill
ars technica ^ | 30 July 2007 | Nate Anderson

Posted on 07/30/2007 10:46:39 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 07/30/2007 10:46:46 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; ..

2 posted on 07/30/2007 10:46:59 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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More useless laws to restrain the people.

When will the infringement on our individual liberties stop?

3 posted on 07/30/2007 10:49:53 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: OKIEDOC
More useless laws to restrain the people.

It has nothing to do with "restraining". It's merely another step in the quest to turn every "citizen" into a criminal--thus turning us into subjects, rather than citizens.

4 posted on 07/30/2007 10:52:21 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Back in May, the Justice Department issued some proposed legislation to tighten US intellectual property laws and to criminalize some forms of "attempted infringement." Now, legislation based on the proposals has been introduced in Congress by Rep. Steve Chabot (R-OH), complete with stiffer jail terms for violaters and the controversial "attempted infringement" clause.

Ping....

5 posted on 07/30/2007 10:53:54 AM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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Back in May, the Justice Department issued some proposed legislation to tighten US intellectual property laws and to criminalize some forms of "attempted infringement." Now, legislation based on the proposals has been introduced in Congress by Rep. Steve Chabot (R-OH), complete with stiffer jail terms for violaters and the controversial "attempted infringement" clause.

Ping....

6 posted on 07/30/2007 10:55:11 AM PDT by SubGeniusX ($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
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OK, I can buy that...errr I agree.

Why is it that politicians are hell bent to give everyone in America a criminal record?

7 posted on 07/30/2007 10:56:08 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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Why is it that politicians are hell bent to give everyone in America a criminal record?

You cannot control an innocent person.

8 posted on 07/30/2007 10:57:25 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: OKIEDOC

To distract from their own criminal records.


9 posted on 07/30/2007 10:58:39 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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“... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any
government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one MAKES them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
......just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted — and you create a nation of law-breakers — and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

- p.411,
Ayn Rand, ATLAS SHRUGGED, Signet Books, NY, 1957

“The brutes, private or public, who believe that they can rule their betters by force, will learn the lesson of what happens when brute force encounters mind and force.” -Ayn Rand Atlas Shrugged


10 posted on 07/30/2007 11:01:04 AM PDT by Dick Bachert ("The urge to save humanity is often a false front for the urge to rule." Mencken)
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11 posted on 07/30/2007 11:01:39 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: OKIEDOC

Why?

because you end up losing certain rights.. one of them being firearms ownership for felonies...


12 posted on 07/30/2007 11:20:12 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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Oh Good.

The RIAA's Bribe and Graft checks are still clearing!

Party Time.

13 posted on 07/30/2007 11:21:15 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = Cesspool + Flavr-Straw™)
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To: OKIEDOC
When will the infringement on our individual liberties stop?

When it ceases to be profitable to politicians. 

14 posted on 07/30/2007 12:03:02 PM PDT by zeugma (If I eat right, don't smoke and exercise, I might live long enough to see the last Baby Boomer die.)
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To: ShadowAce
Control, yes it is all about controlling.

Liberals are great at fretting, nitpicking and scheming about what others do.

It is inherent in their narrow minded genes, not Levi’s for the Nancy Pelosi crowd.

Do as I say not as I do - AlGorerithem on global warming.

15 posted on 07/30/2007 12:32:16 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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for example, copying an entire album could translate into damages for each individual track

Cool, this means if someone infringes on the copyright for my program, I can get damages not for just one program, but for each of the many classes in it.

Actually, not cool. It's just dumb, designed specifically for the greed of the copyright cartel. No, it was probably written by them and handed to their purchased congresscritter with orders to run with it. We already have very good statutory protection for our works, no more is necessary.

16 posted on 07/30/2007 12:39:01 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: OKIEDOC

“Why is it that politicians are hell bent to give everyone in America a criminal record?”

So they can kowtow to their new master’s from Latin America.


17 posted on 07/30/2007 12:42:07 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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Do liberals have criminal records, Inquisitive Minds Want to Know????????????????????????????????????????

I always thought that for most Liberals a Criminal Rap Sheet was the same as a Curriculum Vitae... for the Nancy Pelosi crowd its called re-sue-me oops… resume.


18 posted on 07/30/2007 12:59:44 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: zeugma
When a common citizen thinks about what our current crop of politicians have done to us , it just makes a person sick.

It seems the Democrats think of our national treasury as a cookie jar perpetually refilling itself with our tax dollars.

The Democrats have certainly made a difference in Pork Legislation and Ear Marks unlike naivete Republican leadership, now they cover it up and hide it away in obscure bills.

Damn, Just Damn!

19 posted on 07/30/2007 1:08:11 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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“””When will the infringement on our individual liberties stop?”””

Intellectual Property means It is somebody’s Property and you use it on their terms. Not because it is cheaper for you to consume a low price stolen or free version of the idea/product. If you do not like the price don’t buy it.

I have filed suit against one major computer company and 4 other manufacturers in the last 2 years and resolved all in my favor. These companies could have invested time and money to develop an alternative to my Idea but the risk to them was smaller to try and just steal it.

Where do all these good ideas come from? You are not going to get great literature, music, new inventions etc. without the promise of a capitalist payoff. That is the carrot that drives the engine of innovation. What you steal is the cream of somebody’s( or company’s) effort

Out of all the patents filed every year only 5% make it to market and only 2% are still there after a 5 years. Risks are very high. The same numbers probably apply to musicians, writers and artists

Even though whatever product you are looking at looks simple few have an understanding of the effort that went into it.

In my case it was extremely stressful I worked 60 hrs a week and more, no pay for several years. I drove around in a broken down car and ended up close to $500,000 in debt before I finally hit it.

This is the starving artist effect of the process. I may have not made it in the end and would not have done if I thought it was just going to be taken from me. This is probably one of the purer forms of capitalism.

How most people can express a socialist right to somebody’s else property is beyond me. You are stealing somebody’s best effort,sacrifices and labors. Go ahead write a hit song or the next Harry Potter novel or invent the next greatest latest invention. Make a million or just have it taken from you for the public good

I believe the changes in the law are recommended because the old laws were not working People/companies were still brazenly stealing other peoples ideas. Faced with jail time people might think twice. IMHO


20 posted on 07/30/2007 1:59:33 PM PDT by underbyte (Being an arrogant Washington elitist WILL drop your I.Q. 50 points - No lie)
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