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When Clinton was President conspiracies were standard fare here, remember? Whitewater...Mena...Vince Foster...Ron Brown Chinese dirty money ect. ect. ect.

Now any conservative who suggests the possibility of a government conspiracy is looney...?

I never saw you debunk CFR conspiracy threads which have posted at this forum many times over the years...Perhaps I missed your ridicule of posters to the Whitewater threads and the Vince Foster Ron Brown threads.

You are a simple minded man by any account.

You can’t even remember the history of the forum that you are using to spew your garbage.

First of all, I wasn’t here during the Clintoon era, and I just checked and neither was BlackElk... However, I don’t consider Whitewater a conspiracy in the sense of the CFR/Trilaterals/Buildacheeseburgers international control the world conspiracy, it was simple criminal action that thousands are put in jail for every year... and I don’t buy into the Vince Foster death type conspiracy, it’s only fun to laugh about.

As for debunking the CFR conspiracies, you must have missed it because I’ve done so several times including showing that, for example, the infamous NAU document has lots of counter documents by the CFR that everyone ignores..

Finally, this is not a ‘government conspiracy’ that is being accused, it is a conspiracy of people ‘behind the curtain’ controlling the government that we are discrediting.

But, ummmm, whatever Birchers may imagine, Bill Clinton was at the heart of genuine conspiracies and Dubya is not. Dubya is basically a good guy who is being attacked by a coalition suffering Bush Derangement Syndrome and not all of that coalition are on the left. We also have the delusional neo-isolationist surrender monkeys and wild-eyed CFR hunters. Problems with the Arkansas Antichrist were a lot more serious than membership in a few elitist debating societies and policy wonk groups: problems like transferring nuclear weapons technology to red china and to the friends of the friends of paleoPaulie. Has it ever occurred to the Bircher set that no one has taken them seriously from day one and that no one ever will and that the leadership has degenerated badly since the days of Robert Welch and John Rousselot????

Whitewater was dirty. Vince Foster was no suicide. I don't know for sure about Ron Brown but I remember a woman in the military who handled his corpse at the crash scene claiming that he had a hole in his forehead that looked .45 caliber. Mena was quite plausible. I am a LOT more concerned as to Slick Willie transferring nuclear weapons technology to our enemies than I am as to his receipt of campaign funds through Johnny Huang.

I do not believe in theories of alleged moral equivalency. Iran has no right to nuclear weapons to be used against OUR allies or OURSELVES. If we have to nuke Iran or Israel has to nuke Iran to put a stop to this insanity, so be it. There is no moral equivalency between us and them, whatever it may please Dr. Demento (paleoPaulie) to fantasize. I really don't care about any moral equivalency that Ahmadinejad or his paleoPaulie type supporters care to make. I don't care about the eternal whining, moaning and kvetching out of the paleowhatevers and there is no moral equivalency between the paleowhatevers and actual sane human beings. Go vote for whichever delusional nutcases you may choose. Conservatives will do the heavy lifting to preserve Western Civilization while you guys picnic with paleoPaulie patting yourselves on the back for being the perfectionists that you aren't.

If sophisticated minds are those who see an international banker under every bed, a conspiracy to build some North American highway or to trade in American sovereignty for a North American Union, I will have no problem being unsophisticated when, as in your imagination, sophistication is obviously code for being nuts.

It will be a joy to hammer your surrender monkey El Ron Paulie into the dustbin of history when the real primaries and caucuses begin next year.

Also, don't flatter yourself or other surrender monkey supporters by trademark infringement in which the neo-Neville Chamberlains imagine themselves either patriots or conservatives. Your beloved paleoPaulie, surrender monkey extraordinaire is not known as Dr. Demento for nothing. He has earned that totaled as a lifetime "showhorse not workhorse" achievement award. Of course it is best that demented peace creeps NOT be workhorses.