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How To Turn The Deserts Green & Double the Size of the Habitable Earth
Desalination Research And Development ^ | 07/27/07 | Charles Kilmer

Posted on 07/29/2007 2:48:05 PM PDT by ckilmer

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1 posted on 07/29/2007 2:48:11 PM PDT by ckilmer
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No thanks, I like my AZ property just fine the way it is.


2 posted on 07/29/2007 3:09:40 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) says it (desalination)is a potential threat to the environment that also could exacerbate climate change.

Impacts of desalination include brine build-up, increased greenhouse-gas emissions, destruction of prized coastal areas and reduced emphasis on conservation of rivers and wetlands.


3 posted on 07/29/2007 3:15:12 PM PDT by joshhiggins (O you who believe! do not take the MUSLIMS for friends)
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To: I see my hands

“No thanks, I like my AZ property just fine the way it is.”

I don’t know if I want an Earth without a desert to retreat to
and/or
to hide out in.

But I understand the utopian and humanitarian impulse behind trying
to make more of the planet bloom.


4 posted on 07/29/2007 3:15:17 PM PDT by VOA
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I thought the author was going to propose that we grind up Algore and use him for fertilizer! Nah......that would be the foulest pollution!


5 posted on 07/29/2007 3:18:05 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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Impacts of desalination include brine build-up, increased greenhouse-gas emissions, destruction of prized coastal areas and reduced emphasis on conservation of rivers and wetlands.
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we should be seeing reports of major dead zones around saudi arabia and the gulf states. They are currently wall to wall with desalination plants. The gulf states should serve as a great cautionary tale.

there are never never any reports of ocean damage due to desalination plants among the gulf states.

What’s wrong with this picture.


6 posted on 07/29/2007 3:19:34 PM PDT by ckilmer
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But I understand the utopian and humanitarian impulse behind trying
to make more of the planet bloom.
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Its not utopeanism or humanitarian. The big man made lakes are now half full and dropping while people still stream into the southwest.

Much of the US southwest today exists because of the Lake Meade & Lake Powell.

They are not enough. And there are no other water supplies around to speak of.


7 posted on 07/29/2007 3:22:54 PM PDT by ckilmer
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All we have to do is reduce the cost of desalination and transportation to ten percent of what it is now? No problem. I wonder if anyone has figured out how to get rid of all of the salt and other residue removed. Maybe we can reduce the cost of space travel and send it to Mars. Why not!


8 posted on 07/29/2007 3:24:06 PM PDT by FreePaul
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“the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) says it (desalination)is a potential threat to the environment that also could exacerbate climate change.”

And these same people believe in man-made global warming.


9 posted on 07/29/2007 3:24:19 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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there was a plan to dam the grand canyon in the sixties, but the environmental whackos put a stop to it. If we had a lake there now, people could water there lawns in the southwest instead of having water rationing.


10 posted on 07/29/2007 3:24:54 PM PDT by balch3
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The vision thing in articles of this type sometimes over reaches but if the technology is there in ten years to do what the writer says large cities now sucking their neighboring regions dry could rely on desalinated water and allow the water being drawn from over extended resources to remain where it originally came from. Las Vegas and Los Angeles come to mind.


11 posted on 07/29/2007 3:25:35 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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12 posted on 07/29/2007 3:27:45 PM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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I recall speaking to an American traveling by air in Iran in the days of the Shaw telling about an amazing sight he observed while over a wide expanses of desert.

As he looked out of the window of his prop airliner he saw a dark spot that got larger as they approached.

The airline attendants told him that once when drilling for oil they hit water instead and decided to try an experiment. They put in weeping water lines over one square mile. Within a short time it became a jungle with a great variety of plants and trees. It seems seeds from all over that part of the world had been lying dormant in the sand. The addition of of a steady source of water was all the seeds needed for growth - and viola!!!

13 posted on 07/29/2007 3:28:57 PM PDT by elpadre
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there was a plan to dam the grand canyon in the sixties, but the environmental whackos put a stop to it. If we had a lake there now, people could water there lawns in the southwest instead of having water rationing.

Personally I'd rather have the Grand Canyon than a bunch of a-holes who want to make the desert look like Michigan.

14 posted on 07/29/2007 3:37:30 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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The watermelons will object to ANY change inflicted by humans upon the earth, regardless of the condition of the portion of earth affected.


15 posted on 07/29/2007 3:38:14 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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In Egypt they have been working on the Toshka project for about 10 years. They are diverting water from Lake Nasser (behind the Anwar high dam) and sending it into the Toshka depression in the western desert. They will be able to significantly increase the amount of arable land in the country.


16 posted on 07/29/2007 3:38:36 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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Yeah. Leave the deserts alone. I frequent the Ca/Az desert all the time and love the beauty and timelesness and peace. Just like someone who has never been there to want to ruin them. Same with all the stupid windmills. Are we back in the middle ages again? We have clean nuclear power that can provide for a large percent of our power yet we go back in time before even oil was used.


17 posted on 07/29/2007 3:40:07 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days.)
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you’re right.

it’s the left that’s anti-technology.

and their “environmentalism” is for the most part obstructionist.


18 posted on 07/29/2007 3:43:28 PM PDT by ken21 ( b 4 fred.)
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If the guy is going to talk about water in the desert, he needs to research the subject first:

“These mark Lake Powell and Lake Mead...those dams come at the end of a great period of technological innovation from +-1920-1930.”

Boulder/Hoover dam dates to that period, but construction on the Glen Canyon Dam, however, began in 1956 and was completed in about 1962 (concrete) or 1966 (final work and dedication).


19 posted on 07/29/2007 3:44:16 PM PDT by PAR35
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If it can be done on Arrakis (Dune) it can be done anywhere.
20 posted on 07/29/2007 3:44:48 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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