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Chase suspect linked to (Phoenix)copter crash to ‘man up’
East Valley Tribune ^ | 28 JULY 2007 | Mark Flatten, Daryl James,

Posted on 07/28/2007 2:06:39 PM PDT by radar101

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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Its the new happy defense, for the guilty. I take full responsibility for nothing. Quick, let me plead to some little felony and get overturned because you never extracted any of the proof from me. For those of you who missed the last 40 years, its like B’rer rabbit saying you’se can cook me and eat me, but please, please don’t throw me in that brier patch. I happily take that little 5 year jolt just as long as you don’t start talking 25 to life or a needle.


61 posted on 07/28/2007 4:42:02 PM PDT by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: radar101
Phoenix police Chief Jack Harris also said Friday that Jones could face additional charges related to the deaths of the four television journalists who died in the helicopter crash.

complete BS! The guy is scum, but hes not responsible for two BAD helicopter pilots running into each other as they watch overhead like freaking vultures for the amusement of stay home moms and unemployed people who watch TV during a work day.

62 posted on 07/28/2007 4:43:16 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: dragnet2
There was actually a case not too long ago where law enforcement was pursuing a suspect. A state trooper 40 miles away was responding, he crashed, and was killed. The suspect was charged with his death and convicted.

I'd be interested in reading about the case. Do you have a link or appellate decision?

63 posted on 07/28/2007 5:28:52 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan
I'd be interested in reading about the case.

Be my guest friend.

Jury Convicts Suspect In Highway Patrolman's Death

KSDK - If it hadn't been for Massigh Stallman, Missouri Highway Patrol Trooper Ralph Tatoian would still be alive, and Stallman is responsible for his death, a jury has ruled. In April of 2005, Trooper Tatoian was driving on Interstate 44 to the scene were police were looking for Stallman, a wooded area in Gasconade County. As he drove with his lights and siren on, he came over a hill near Pacific, and slammed into a tractor trailer. Trooper Tatoian was killed. Meanwhile, more than 40 miles away in Gasconade County, police from several agencies continued the manhunt for Stallman. They eventually found him and arrested him. The manhunt began after Stallman held up a convenience store, robbed a woman, and shot a Gasconade Sheriff's Deputy. The deputy survived the shooting, and Stallman led police on a chase that ended along Highway 50, where Stallman ran into the woods. The jury also convicted Stallman of charges related to those crimes. Stallman's attorneys planned to appeal the conviction for second degree murder in Trooper Tatoian's death, saying he should not be held responsible for the crash. Stallman, 28, is from High Ridge. He now awaits sentencing, which could include life in prison.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=124701

64 posted on 07/28/2007 5:36:14 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Do you have a link to the appellate court decision?


65 posted on 07/28/2007 5:40:37 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan
Do you have a link to the appellate court decision?

Uh, no and I don't have crime scene photos or copies of police reports.

You implied you wanted some proof, and I provided it for you. You wanna dig deeper, have at it.

66 posted on 07/28/2007 5:43:03 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Since he was convicted just last week, an appellare court decision is likely at least six months, or more away.

The murder conviction will never stand up to appellate review. The cop was driving dangerously and died as a result of his own stupid decision to not exercise appropriate care while driving.


67 posted on 07/28/2007 9:17:13 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: razorback-bert
Draining ponds seems to be the feds favorite activity.

They're hopin' to find strange women, distributin' swords.

68 posted on 07/28/2007 9:28:10 PM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: Steamburg

When we were first married, I was in the doghouse for some misdemeanor whose import completely escaped me, something like leaving the toilet seat up. Anyway, I got a Hallmark “I Sorry” card with a pathetic looking puppy on it and the caption, “If I say I’m sorry, does that mean I can’t do it again?”

(Yeah, she bought it, we’re still married. It’s not that easy to get rid of me.)


69 posted on 07/29/2007 4:10:16 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Bestowing kindness on the evil visits cruelty on the good.)
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To: Tax-chick; Steamburg

My #69 was meant for you not Steamburg. Steamie: Roger your #61.


70 posted on 07/29/2007 4:15:20 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Bestowing kindness on the evil visits cruelty on the good.)
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To: radar101
Meanwhile, a “go team” of eight federal investigators arrived overnight to sort through the helicopter debris at Steele Indian School Park in downtown Phoenix.

National Transportation Safety Board spokesman Steve Chealander said investigators will drain a pond at the park to gather evidence. He said the water contains helicopter fuel, and investigators will have to take precautions to protect the park from contamination.

“We’re going to carefully drain the pond and gather any evidence that we can,” he said.

'There is no truth to the rumors that the government has Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder', said the government spokesman as they knifed through a few cool million bucks of taxpayer money to figure out that a helicopter collision was INDEED a helicopter collision.

71 posted on 07/29/2007 7:36:58 AM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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They're hopin' to find strange women, distributin' swords.

'Ere, mayhap they'll find a tart, lying about in the pond, what?

72 posted on 07/29/2007 7:43:20 AM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: Tax-chick

I have no need to explain the legal doctrine of felony murder any further. If you disagree with it, perhaps you should move to Arizona and lobby the state legislature to have it changed.


73 posted on 07/29/2007 12:47:15 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dragnet2
Incorrect. The crime this guy committed had absolutely nothing to do with those choppers colliding, or the people that died in them.

The prosecutor will decide whether he or she wants to bring charges. A jury (or a judge) will decide if I'm correct or not.

74 posted on 07/29/2007 12:48:48 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: cripplecreek

Agree ...........pilot’s & presstitutes weren’t required to chase this guy. Police Helo’s ....sure a gimme. Not the commercial pandering enterprises profiting from the crime.

The helicopters belonging to those stations was “their” accident ......

As much as I’d love to see this SOB go to jail for as long as possible for his endangering all on the ground in the high speed chase and his carjacking. The New’s Choppers ain’t his burden to bear IMHO.


75 posted on 07/29/2007 12:58:35 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: 1rudeboy
The prosecutor will decide whether he or she wants to bring charges.

A little hard to file criminal charges when no crime was involved in regards to the helicopters colliding.

76 posted on 07/29/2007 10:29:38 PM PDT by dragnet2
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