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Latinos Assimilate on Their Own Terms
New America Media ^ | 7/27/2007 | Hiram Soto

Posted on 07/28/2007 10:02:08 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

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To: teawithmisswilliams; dennisw
Here's the dire state of affairs in California: http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_6492635

The title of your link is: “Latino baby boom changing demographics in California”.

It does not deal with crime or social pathology. It just deals with “changing demographics” and also goes on to say that 40% of Latinos in California go on to intermarry with other ethnic groups.

Yep, the same “crisis” happened to the Old Knickerbockers of New York City in the late 1800’s when all those Eastern European Jews started moving into New York City by the thousands and drastically changed the demographics of New York City.

New York City is home to more Jews than any other city in the world. New York City became the immigration Mecca for the Jewish people

These Eastern European Jews were not seen in the same light as the well educated Sephardic Jews that Americans were used to:

Eastern European Jews: Many of the Eastern European Jews that arrived in New York during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries came from small, poor, and enclosed communities, also known as shtetls. Within these communities there was no aspiration for a high degree of education, because from a religious standpoint it was not encouraged and from an economic standpoint it was not feasible. In the eyes of a shtetl Jew, a high degree of education meant continued religious studies throughout a lifetime. The highest position that a man could strive for was to become a Rabbi, while a woman was destined for the role of a housewife. Neither obtained skills that would be useful in a world so different than the shtetl.

Read the magazines of the day and you will find articles warning about the dangers to American society of allowing in immigrants from such a poor and alien culture so unlike the “civilized” Sephardic Jews that could function well in American society.

And look what they were doing to the old New York City neighborhoods that used to have signs in English.

Yep, it’s the same old story.

In the end, the Eastern European Jews did just fine. New York City was never the same but, that’s the way it is in America.

In the end, the new Latinos will also do just fine and, with a 40% intermarriage rate, will melt into the Heinz 57 mix that is America a lot faster than the Eastern European Jews did.

Instead of lashing out at all Latinos for being Latinos, maybe we should be lashing out at illegal aliens because they are illegals.

82 posted on 07/29/2007 4:24:49 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Altura Ct.

Hiram Soto writes for Enlace, the Union-Tribune’s Spanish-language weekly.

Hiram Soto, vice president of the San Diego chapter of the
California Chicano News Media Association


83 posted on 07/29/2007 4:37:49 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: dennisw
You should ask yourself why regulator writes the way he does. He and his people have been practically driven out of the Los Angeles area. I’d say he’s entitled to be enraged at the people who have done this. .... dennisw

Let us assume that, back in the 1950's, my family in Cuba was devastated by the actions of the Jewish gangsters Meyer Lansky and Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel. Let us further assume that I am "entitled to be enraged" as a result. Should I vent my rage at "gangsters" and "crimminals" and "thugs"? Or Should I vent my rage at "the Joooos" which would also include you and all other Jewish people? ..... Polybius

LOL are you sure you got through medical school? Your line of argument fails to make any sense. There are no Jews standing in the way of any Hispanic nations becoming successful. ...... dennisw

Non sequitur.

Go ahead and defend such expressions of bigotry against an entire ethnic group.

I was wrong to assume that the history of the first half of the 20th Century had taught you something.

Go ahead and apply for membership in the Ku Klux Klan if it floats your boat. Just make sure they don't find out you are Jewish because hatred for you is one thing that the Ku Klux Klan bigots and the MECHA bigots both share.

When you are attacked for simply being Jewish, I will still defend you, regardless of your utter lack of common sense.

84 posted on 07/29/2007 4:41:35 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: NRA2BFree
wearing bandannas

You got a problem with bandannas?

85 posted on 07/29/2007 4:43:30 PM PDT by humblegunner (Word up!)
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To: humblegunner
You got a problem with bandannas?

Only when they're worn over the face to hide someone's identity.

86 posted on 07/29/2007 7:23:33 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (THE TREE OF LIBERTY NEEDS TO BE WATERED FROM TIME TO TIME WITH THE BLOOD OF TYRANTS!!!)
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To: wequalswinner
Pray for us, Our Lady of Guadalupe!

Woo hoo. Now there's an American expression!

If you feel more connected to the wonderful Tierra de Mexico then Gringolandia, please, by all means, pack the Cheby and head on back!

You're free to go, and forever escape this evil veil of Anglo bigotry!

Your adobe hut awaits you. Don't forget to take a little spare cash for The Bite!

Hasta La Tacos!

87 posted on 07/30/2007 5:56:03 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: dennisw
LOL are you sure you got through medical school?

Hey, DW, he's an Affirmative Action dude! Cut him some slack!

Isn't it hilarious that the big, proud, strutting Conquistadors come to America and demand special treatment and government favors?

Pobrecitos!

88 posted on 07/30/2007 5:58:14 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Tennessee Nana

I celebrate my Caribbean birth and my American loyalties by drinking rum during the 4th while watching the fireworks and waving the AMERICAN flag, instead of drinking whiskey and waving the AMERICAN flag.

Different ways of celebrating the same thing, but I have a feeling these guys wave both flags or the flag that’s red, white and green on the 4th.


89 posted on 07/30/2007 6:11:50 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Trinidad&Tobago: Proof that a Muslim minority (5%pop) causes a majority of a country's problems.)
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To: Altura Ct.
Latinos are assimilating, but in their own way,...

Yep, like the Borg...

90 posted on 07/30/2007 6:15:42 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Clemenza

I’m living proof that you’re wrong.


91 posted on 07/30/2007 6:20:22 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Trinidad&Tobago: Proof that a Muslim minority (5%pop) causes a majority of a country's problems.)
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To: Altura Ct.
Seems that some here want to acquiesce to the invasion and think we should kowtow to the the invaders

Yup. Because we're Guilty, DonchaKnow, Guilty! of...of...of something, they'll think of it in justa minute or so, while they're checking the mail for that free money we pass out here, and filling out that employment application with the "check here if Hispanic" box, so they can step to the front of the line.

93 posted on 07/30/2007 6:32:27 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: mthom
If we can just get rid of us gringos and import more mexicans then what a hard working moral country wed be

Heh. Yeah.

Wanted to make sure that I congratulate you for the "Short and to the Point" award.

Me and PB are alike. Brevity isn't one of our virtues.

Hey, here's the pix Polybius won't post:

Hard working and Moral, right? Mexico: Where we Don't Wanna Be.

94 posted on 07/30/2007 6:40:54 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Altura Ct.
when thousands of people and anti-immigrant activists called their senators

So... we're anti-immigrant, not anti-law-breaking...
and we're up against "people", because we certainly don't qualify for that title.

95 posted on 07/30/2007 7:07:29 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Regulator

It’s not American, it’s Catholic. Catholic, as in Universal Church, and you just proved my point.

I pray to our Mother, the Mother of God, somethimes referred to as “Our Lady of Guadalupe” because of the miracle that happened there, that your heart will be relieved of the hate that infects it. The hate you are spouting may somehow make you feel better now, but don’t forget there is a border which none may cross after we die. I, for one, do not plan to be on the wrong side of that border when my time comes, and I pray to God and to the whole communion of saints that you aren’t either.

To sum it up if you are still so blinded and can’t understand what I’m saying: I never said I was in favor of illegal immigration. But I just can’t and won’t hate the way you do


97 posted on 07/30/2007 8:17:00 AM PDT by SaintDismas (.)
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To: wequalswinner
Catholic, as in Universal Church

Right. Got it. The Universal Roman Church, bow down to the mortal Pope and pay him his indulgences or he sends Cortez (um, Polybius?) to pull off your fingernails.

And Convert or we'll throw you off a cliff, as they said to the Cochimi in California. Note what happened to them at the hands of the Wondrous Spanish Missionaries.

Yeah. Universal Church. Right.

Martin Luther forever, hon. Tell it to Saint Tork-E-Mada.

By the way...criticising Spain, what they did in the Americas, criticising Spaniard culture which was and is responsible for those ongoing disasters, criticising Mexico for its vicious, ugly and predatory culture and actions in trying to destroy the United States and enslave its people to its parasite upper class, criticising Fellow Travelers here who defend those actions because they came from there, is not "hate". It is, in fact, the bitter truth.

But people like you, and the Left in general, use words like that to try to silence that truth because it might end your campaign of intimidation. A campaign that has as its ultimate goal the social and political subjugation of the once free people of the United States, which you seek to shackle once again in history to a vile and undeserving self selected elite, who do things like use the name of God and church authority to assert that they "deserve" to rule everyone else.

That is the reality of Feudalism, and that is what Mexico and the rest of Latin America is still about. Communism is an attempt to bring back Feudalism in a new package, but with the same result....enslavement to the state.

And who is the state? Same as the Old Boss, as Pete Townshend once said.

98 posted on 07/30/2007 10:18:33 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

You’re on a roll!!!!
Get those doggies rolling! Out of the United States of America!

Keep movin’, movin’, movin’,
Though they’re disapprovin’,
Keep them doggies movin’ Rawhide!
Don’t try to understand ‘em,
Just rope and throw and grab ‘em,
Soon we’ll be living high and wide.
Boy my heart’s calculatin’
My true love will be waitin’, be waiting at the end of my ride.

Move ‘em on, head ‘em up,
Head ‘em up, move ‘em out,
Move ‘em on, head ‘em out Rawhide!
Set ‘em out, ride ‘em in
Ride ‘em in, let ‘em out,
Cut ‘em out, ride ‘em in Rawhide.

Full Lyrics

Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’
Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’
Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’
Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’
Rawhide!

Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’
Though the streams are swollen
Keep them dogies rollin’
Rawhide!


99 posted on 07/30/2007 11:52:27 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Regulator
Hard working and Moral, right? Mexico: Where we Don't Wanna Be.

MS-13 is from El Salvador, but don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

100 posted on 07/30/2007 12:05:58 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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