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To: wagglebee
If you are talking about folks who believe in limited government, freedom of choice and cast them as libertarians with a little "L" then you are talking about me. I don't approve of, or expect the legalization of many things.

I expect most who consider themselves libertarian by nature still see limites. You could fill threads discussing each issue, line item by line item.

The reason your approach bothers me is b/c you find the most vile things that nobody would expect to be legal except for the most extreme nutjobs, and then paint all libertarians as being in agreement.

What you do is wholly dishonest and disgusting. Quite frankly, the things that anti-libertarina people like you accuse people like me of frequently in these forums would earn you a sound beating on the street. The only way you get away with it is because you can hide behind your keyboard.

You know full well what you are doing too. That, or you are as ignorant as your arguments make you out to be.

134 posted on 07/29/2007 11:51:08 AM PDT by bluefish (I suffer from Hillaryphobia.)
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To: bluefish; wagglebee
Basically, what I'm saying above is that you do the same thing that libertarians do to you when they accuse you of being in agreement with the Taliban. I admit to sinking to that level in the past, but try not to. You and your ilk actively seek out the opportunity to do it.

Taking a persons position and stretching it to the philosophical extreme is dishonest, in both directions. You should do less of it and you will likely find a more receptive audience and more converts.

All you really do with your approach is piss reasonable people off and make yourself look like a dishonest fool that is more concerned with winning arguments and slandering people than you are with the actual issues being discussed. Maybe that's all you really care to do. Perhaps it is just a game to you and you have decided that logic or intellectual honesty is not in your game plan.

135 posted on 07/29/2007 12:01:14 PM PDT by bluefish (I suffer from Hillaryphobia.)
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To: bluefish; wagglebee
If you are talking about folks who believe in limited government, freedom of choice and...

Bad choice of words on my part. I forgot that Liberals co-opted the "freedom of choice" concept and have applied it to abortion. I guess I was thinking about "Free to Choose" by Milton Friedman or something.

For the record, I think abortion is an abomination and that it should be outlawed (I believe there are already laws on the books for murder afterall), or at minimum, severely restricted to extreme cases where both mother and child were going to die during pregnancy or birth. Saving one life rather than losing two would be a legitemate time to terminate the pregnancy. I'm not sure I find many other valid reasons to kill a baby.

137 posted on 07/29/2007 12:05:47 PM PDT by bluefish (I suffer from Hillaryphobia.)
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