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Rove's Diagnosis
Townhall.com ^ | July 28, 2007 | Robert D. Novak

Posted on 07/28/2007 3:47:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

WASHINGTON -- Karl Rove, President Bush's political lieutenant, told a closed-door meeting of 2008 Republican House candidates and their aides Tuesday that it was less the war in Iraq than corruption in Congress that caused their party's defeat in the 2006 elections.

Rove's clear advice to the candidates is to distance themselves from the culture of Washington. Specifically, Republican candidates are urged to make clear they have no connection with disgraced congressmen such as Duke Cunningham and Mark Foley.

In effect, Rove was rebutting the complaint inside the party that George W. Bush is responsible for Republican miseries by invading Iraq.

MCCAIN VS. THOMPSON

Sen. John McCain, trying to keep his sinking Republican presidential campaign afloat, scheduled a fund-raiser for the same day -- Monday -- that Fred Thompson is holding his first Washington money event. McCain's reception is in the same suburban Virginia neighborhood where Thompson lives.

McCain's $1,000-to-$2,300 per person "intimate lunch" is being held at the McLean, Va., home of Wes Foster. He is chairman and CEO of Long & Foster, a major Washington area real estate firm. Thompson is holding a reception that night at the J.W. Marriott hotel in downtown Washington.

A footnote: Alabama Atty. Gen. Troy King, McCain's state chairman, attended a private fund-raiser for Thompson in Mountain Brook, Ala., last Monday night. However, as an invited guest, King did not pay the $1,000 price of admission and said he was still committed to McCain.

PENTAGON EARMARKS

Sen. Tom Coburn, frustrated with the Pentagon winking at earmarks, wrote Defense Secretary Robert Gates July 19 requesting a critique of all Defense spending items asked by members of Congress to determine whether they "are for necessary national security purposes or to satisfy the parochial self-interests of politicians and defense industry lobbyists."

Coburn has experienced difficulty in getting information from the Pentagon on more than 300 earmarks contained in the Defense Department authorization bill. Over the past five years, such earmarks have cost taxpayers $55 billion. Coburn has not received a response from Gates at this writing. He has failed to mandate such critiques by legislative action.

Earmarks cited in Coburn's letter to Gates include more than $40 million for 21st Century Systems Inc. (21 CSI), sponsored by Sen. Ben Nelson. In defending the earmark for a company that employs his son, Nelson claims support from the Pentagon.

Solicitations for a Sept. 12 fund-raising reception in Washington on behalf of ailing Sen. Tim Johnson give the impression he will be present at the event, but in fact there are no such plans.

Sources close to Johnson say he will not decide his schedule until he is back in the Senate, and there is no firm schedule yet for that. Johnson has not been seen publicly since suffering a brain hemorrhage last Dec. 13, but his staff has been raising funds for his re-election campaign in South Dakota. His campaign has $1.75 million cash on hand.

The $1,000-to-$2,300-a-ticket reception will be held at the home of Johnson's fellow South Dakotan, former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, and his wife, transportation industry lobbyist Linda Daschle, on Foxhall Road millionaire's row in Washington. It has been speculated that if Johnson cannot run, Daschle could attempt a political comeback.

GROUCHY GINGRICH

Contrary to reports that Newt Gingrich lost control in one of his temper tantrums at a breakfast last Monday sponsored by The American Spectator magazine, the former House speaker was variously described as "grouchy," "cool" and "arrogant" in assailing his critics.

Gingrich made clear he would not be seen anytime soon engaging in multi-candidate debates with opponents for the presidency, disdaining them, as he said Charles DeGaulle once labeled his competitors, as "pygmies." But he did not rule out an eventual candidacy.

A footnote: Republican leaders report that the most enthusiasm among grassroots activists is for Gingrich and libertarian Rep. Ron Paul.


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To: Jim Noble

Sorry Jim, I’m just not poll driven.


61 posted on 07/28/2007 10:25:15 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Palladin

Better yet-——let’s start callung the invaders “HATERS.”

“Haters” is the paradigm liberal put-down (used on those liberals hate {snicker}).


62 posted on 07/28/2007 10:27:24 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: Kaslin

Rove was once a God here....criticism of Lord Karl was a perilous endeavor

how the mighty have fallen and taken our political capital with them

they still just don’t get it


63 posted on 07/28/2007 10:28:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (chicks and small kids rule me)
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To: bray
The only place where there is more hatred for President Bush than the DNC is FR

oh cry me a river Bray....have you never been to Liberty Post

64 posted on 07/28/2007 10:33:53 AM PDT by wardaddy (chicks and small kids rule me)
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To: wardaddy

I don’t see very many people here hating Bush. I see quite a few (myself included) that don’t agree with some of his policies. Some posters here can’t differentiate between the two.

I guess we’re just supposed to STFU and drink the k00laid.


65 posted on 07/28/2007 10:49:16 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death

we worked very hard to elect him twice (and had lived thru an 8 year Clinton wilderness, so we were ready) so a fundamental diverge of opinion on where to take this country is exponentially bitter

I don’t hate him but I am very disappointed and angry

yet...I laud the things he’s gotten right


66 posted on 07/28/2007 10:52:38 AM PDT by wardaddy (chicks and small kids rule me)
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To: samtheman
Rove may be right that "corruption" had more to do with 2006 than Iraq. But that hardly touches on the question of how he himself performed......his performance was piss-poor and because of that I'm not overly interested in his "analysis" of that defeat. Since he was the architect of it, I don't trust his ability to "examine the data" with objectivity.

Rove stupidly threw in his lot with urban neos also known as the "Everything-For-Us-Nothing-For-You" wing of the Repub Party.

This faction is pushing Rudy Giuliani's candidacy in order to fulfill their dreams of Endless War (although it's not yet clear how many countries they want the US to invade).

As the face of 9/11, Rudy was sent thither and yon to campaign for 2006 Repub candidates (who all went down to defeat). Rove's stupid plan flopped bigtime---Rudy got zilch chips to cash in as a war-minded prez candidate.

Rudy and this faction are also obsessed with religious cleansing of the Repub party. Their most fervent wish is to dump social conservatives off the Repub party lifeboat.

Like I said...this is the "Everything-For-Us-Nothing-For-You" wing of the Repub Party.

We'll soon see who gets dumped.

67 posted on 07/28/2007 11:05:30 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: MNJohnnie
Thousands were run on “the culture of corruption”, not one on Iraq.

And it was not Iraq that caused conservative voters to stay home. It was the rampant corruption among the Republican majority, along with their penchant for spending.

However, if Rove is right about this (and he is), why can't he see the immigration issue for what it is?

68 posted on 07/28/2007 11:15:22 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Liz
the "Everything-For-Us-Nothing-For-You" wing of the Repub Party
They remember us when it's time to promise us enough to get us to vote for them.
69 posted on 07/28/2007 11:19:02 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Kaslin
Rove's clear advice to the candidates is to distance themselves from the culture of Washington. Specifically, Republican candidates are urged to make clear they have no connection with disgraced congressmen such as Duke Cunningham and Mark Foley.

In effect, Rove was rebutting the complaint inside the party that George W. Bush is responsible for Republican miseries by invading Iraq.

I can't believe any Republican candidates are actually listening to Rove if they really want to win. Distance yourself from Duke Cunningham and Mark Foley??? Is that supposed to be brilliant advice for 2008?!?

I'd love to hear what Rove advised them to do vis a vis immigration? No doubt he told tell them to embrace amnesty, er, sorry, I mean "comprhensive immigration reform" .

And the war in Iraq ain't exactly a selling point at tstage. Taking down Saddam was the right thing to do, but the war has been terribly mismanaged post invasion. Unfotunately, that's the truth.

70 posted on 07/28/2007 11:36:43 AM PDT by Norman Arbuthnot
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To: Liz
We'll soon see who gets dumped.

After you dump your enemies, do you have a plan capable of winning a Presidential election?

71 posted on 07/28/2007 11:39:36 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I have been blogging on this for a year. You , my friend are correct and are the genius, not Rove. Although, Rove is somewhat correct. The GOP needs to stand up against the Rats. They are our enemy in this nation. They are the pacifist socialists. They are the defeatists. Go over the heads of the MSM and tell the public that. But, the nice Gop will not and they will get skunked in ‘08 unless they do.


72 posted on 07/28/2007 11:40:18 AM PDT by phillyfanatic ( w)
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To: Liberty Valance
I’m just not poll driven.

How virtuous.

Never mind polls.

Do you have a plan to win 271 electoral votes in 2008 or 2012?

Do you have a candidate who is capable of executing that plan?

Or don't you care?

73 posted on 07/28/2007 11:41:44 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Wow I guess I am the grass roots. Those are 2 of my top 3. But I do agree with you even though they are my favorites I meet very few others that are of like mind. Lol!
74 posted on 07/28/2007 11:45:00 AM PDT by TeddyIke
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To: Kaslin
Specifically, Republican candidates are urged to make clear they have no connection with disgraced congressmen such as Duke Cunningham and Mark Foley

What about Tom Delay? When Tom dropped out of the race after winning the Primary, he cost us a safe seat.

When a guy runs like a scaled dog rather than standing and fighting, it makes me think he just might be guilty.
75 posted on 07/28/2007 12:05:48 PM PDT by no dems (Dear God, how long are you going to let Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd and John Conyers live?)
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To: Kaslin
McCain's reception is in the same suburban Virginia neighborhood where Thompson lives.

Hmmmm. Guess I'm not as up to date as I thought I was. I thought Fred was back in Tennessee.
76 posted on 07/28/2007 12:08:04 PM PDT by no dems (Dear God, how long are you going to let Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd and John Conyers live?)
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To: TeddyIke
I think yours is the most civil and FRiendly “candidate” post that I have seen. Thank you.

LLS

77 posted on 07/28/2007 12:10:09 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Kaslin
a closed-door meeting of 2008 Republican House candidates

Are these GOP incumbents or GOP challengers to Dem incumbents? All Congressmen have to run every two years; as we all know. So, I'm assuming these are Pubbies who've been recruited to run in '08, huh?
78 posted on 07/28/2007 12:15:04 PM PDT by no dems (Dear God, how long are you going to let Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd and John Conyers live?)
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To: Jim Noble
How virtuous. Never mind polls. Do you have a plan to win 271 electoral votes in 2008 or 2012? Do you have a candidate who is capable of executing that plan? Or don't you care?

Sure I care. Do you think we have such a candidate currently running for President?
79 posted on 07/28/2007 2:18:13 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: MNJohnnie

If that is supposed to be a swipe at me, you need to know my posting history before taking one. :)


80 posted on 07/28/2007 3:13:47 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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