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To: Leisler
According to the Danish Wind Energy Association, they currently get 20% of power consumption from wind, not production as you state. They expect this to be 25% by next year.

http://www.windpower.org/composite-53.htm

95 posted on 07/28/2007 6:00:36 AM PDT by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave
Yes, they do say that. And it is repeated by wind advocates everywhere.

It is false and misleading, at best.

Again. Denmark is unique in being a small place with a lot of wind connected to large electricity consuming nations. Even Denmark being ideal, their wind farms are boondoggles. They require subsidies. This besides Denmark having something like ten times the amount of windy days, and potential wind energy. Do the Danes do wind energy. Yes they do. Does the Danish project, the best, the largest under the most ideal conditions by a factor of ten make money, or economic sense or provide steady, relible, cheap electrical energy? No it does not.

Wind energy costly for consumers January 29, 2007 The government’s plan to increase the nation’s reliance on green power could expand a black hole that already sucks nearly two billion kroner out of consumers’ pockets annually. In order to promote construction of wind turbines, the government has agreed to purchase the electricity they generate at a minimum price. The guaranteed prices have had the desired effect: some 5300 wind turbines dot the Danish countryside, producing 18.5 percent of all electricity generated. The practice has its downside, however. The guaranteed prices for wind power results in an overproduction that cost the state an excess DKK 21.6 billion between 2001 and 2005, according to figures from the National Audit Agency. Due to the uncertainty of whether the wind will blow, Energinet.dk, the organisation responsible for ensuring that the country can meet its electricity demand, has to keep a reserve of conventionally produced electricity in case the wind dies down. The extra cost is typically passed on to consumers in the form of higher electric bills.

Just what I need. Another subsidized interest group, using the government to tax me to fatten them. Yeah, baby.

Hey, nothing is stopping you from writing a business plan, the world is awash, sloshing with cash and savvy tech investors, and you can get rich and famous with your plant. Well, save the customers want power when they want it and as much as they want every single moment of the year, and wind can not supply that service or product.
Of course you can do what the Danes and even our government does, and that is to use government force to make companies buy your product, when it is available at amount of varying availability. That would make your balance book profitable and you would be a success! IN economics that is called 'rent seeking'. You want steady income with in this case a unsteady product. Nice. Americans love stuff like that. Maybe I'll show up with electricity, maybe I won't. Maybe I'll be a lot, maybe a little. Naturally the regular power generators will have to dance around what ever electrical tune you are calling that hour, that day, that week or season. Naturally they'll pick up the costs, which won't show up on your books and make them more expensive so that you'll even look 'cheaper'.( sarcasm off)

Anyways, there is a reason nobody moves boats by wind , nor generates electric power without massive robbing of the taxpayers( This is called a market signel). It is because wind generation is physically inefficient and economically expensive and unprofitable. The Danes do it because they tax the Danish citizens tens of billions of dollars and deliver it to the wind industry.

Wind power in West Denmark. Lessons for the UK. I don't think you will either want to or will understand this, but anyways..."

96 posted on 07/28/2007 8:06:14 AM PDT by Leisler (Just be glad your not getting all the Government you pay for.)
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