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Four endangered gorillas found shot dead 'Huge loss' for population that numbers just 700
MSNBC ^ | 7/26/2007 | MSNBC

Posted on 07/26/2007 10:56:25 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: GovernmentShrinker
"Maybe you should look into the eyes of a young, still-nursing gorilla, while it watches a gang of human thugs kill its mother, cut off her hands, and carry them off, leaving her mutilated body behind." p> Same goes for baby seals, baby deer, baby moose, baby bears, baby everythings. They all have such cute innocent eyes when a little creative photography is applied. If you are into micro photography, you can capture the loving eyes of mother insects as they lay their eggs, carefully concealing them from evil bad human predators. Flowering plants carefully conceal the seeds of their offspring from predators as well, tree's cleverly use several methods of protecting their ofspring. Little fishes sometimes hide in their parent fishes mouths,....

On and on we can go, arguing that every single plant and animal on earth would be better off if humans weren't around. And after humans, the next predator in line, and so on and so forth. eventually the entire earth would be devoid of all life except one single plant.

We are part of the food chain, get used to it.

101 posted on 07/26/2007 2:15:48 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

A “food chain” doesn’t involve killing animals and leaving their bodies behind without eating a single bite of them. Nor would it make a bit of sense for one species in the food chain to cause the extinction of a species it depends on for food..


102 posted on 07/26/2007 2:19:33 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Sherman Logan
"Occam's Razor says that the reported infection rates are not accurate.

The population of Africa is 688 million. according to the AIDS pandemic reported over the past 10 years, Africans should be next to non- existent. Or, the population of Africa was uncountable ten years ago. The AIDS claims just don't add up to being anywhere near believable. It's just another UN/NGO cash cow

103 posted on 07/26/2007 2:26:00 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Red in Blue PA
So when there are no more animals on the planet, only people, you will be happy?

No leap of logic THERE ...

104 posted on 07/26/2007 2:27:30 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Yup.


105 posted on 07/26/2007 2:27:51 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: dmz
Got pets?

Yep. They're just animals too.

106 posted on 07/26/2007 2:28:04 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: dfwgator
Michael Vick, is that you?

Nope. Not nearly enough money.

107 posted on 07/26/2007 2:28:48 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I agree. that’s why I’m a conservationist. We have to ensure we keep our food supply healthy and in abundance. Any practices which would put those things we rely on in danger of depletion beyond recovery should be eliminated.

The senseless killing of these gorilla’s is just that.


108 posted on 07/26/2007 2:30:56 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DJ MacWoW
"A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog."

Maybe so, but if anyone is to judge my soul, it ain't gonna be YOU.

109 posted on 07/26/2007 2:32:28 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: twonie
You are pathetic.

Well, one of us is ...

110 posted on 07/26/2007 2:33:18 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Normally, I wouldn’t care about your dumb opinion either,

That only seems fair. I don't care about yours.

... when it’s one that if widely adopted will spoil things for thinking people I take note.

"If widely adopted ..." Do you mean if more people don't care about the deaths of four apes? And by "thinking people" I take it you don't include yourself ...

111 posted on 07/26/2007 2:35:18 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack
Maybe so, but if anyone is to judge my soul, it ain't gonna be YOU.

WHERE did I say it WAS my job? I gave you a quote. And added to it. If it stung, it was the correct quote and response.

112 posted on 07/26/2007 2:37:10 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Ever hear of War Dogs? They have saved the lives of more than 10,000 US servicemen.

Good for them. Do you think that means they are human? Or that they are gorillas? Or that there is any logical link between this story and that anecdotal fact?

And their handlers would probably tell you that the animals have more humanity than most humans.

Then their handlers have spent too much time in the kennel. Anthropomorphization is not unusual in people who spend a lot of time with animals, but it is still a psychological dysfunction.

You opinion is, putting it nicely, very sick.

... said the guy who thinks doggies are people too.

113 posted on 07/26/2007 2:39:46 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Is killing a gorilla (a potential human)as bad as killing an unborn baby? Just wondering.


114 posted on 07/26/2007 2:40:23 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Nathan Zachary
that doesn't mean the resource should be senselessly depleted into extinction.

I agree. The deaths of four of these apes does not constitute extinctive depletion. Senseless, apparently, but not likely to eradicate the whole species.

I like hunting deer and moose, but also am active to protect the health and abundance of the herds so I can continue to hunt and eat them.

No such value accrues to the animals in question. Not that that justifies slaughtering them wholesale, but I don't think four deaths is exactly eradication.

115 posted on 07/26/2007 2:42:31 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: fish hawk

How is a gorilla a potential human? Are you saying one day it will turn into a human?

A gorilla is an animal. A beast like all other animals.
Some people call insects animals these days. They aren’t they are bugs.

Anyways, if Gorilla’s are now humans, and insects are now animals, That must mean us former humans must have moved up a level as well; are we now God’s?


116 posted on 07/26/2007 2:46:45 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DJ MacWoW

Your “addition” included the phrase “Seems to me ...” I took that to mean that your were applying the quote to me, and that in doing so you were casting a judgment. In fact, I’m not sure you can really argue otherwise and be honest.


117 posted on 07/26/2007 2:47:18 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Nathan Zachary

If you read my tag line you would understand my sarcasm. (evolution)


118 posted on 07/26/2007 2:49:25 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: fish hawk
Is killing a gorilla (a potential human)as bad as killing an unborn baby? Just wondering.

Is killing anything that's helpless right? Disregard for animals as living things that feel pain leads to callousness towards humans.

"A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog." -Charles Doran

Seems to me that that would include anything that's helpless, child or animal.

119 posted on 07/26/2007 2:51:47 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: IronJack
agreed. Interesting also that you point out that animals, no matter how many "human like" qualities some people think they posses, will hunt and eat the very last of the sub- species it normally hunts and eats without regard for conservation. Then it will simply move on to another source. Animals have no conscious.

Someone mentioned trained dogs used in the war. Yes indeed, they saved lives, but it wasn't out of "love" or emotional reasoning. It's was strictly out of learned behavior, training. My dog will fetch a stick no mater where I throw it. If I tossed it into a volcano, the dog would probably jump in after it. (Out of love of course.../s)

120 posted on 07/26/2007 2:54:19 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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