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MoD confirms £3.8bn carrier order
bbc news online ^ | 25th july 07 | bbc news

Posted on 07/25/2007 10:59:36 AM PDT by Rikstir

Orders for two new Royal Navy aircraft carriers have been confirmed by Defence Secretary Des Browne.

He said the £3.8bn contract would lead to the construction of the largest vessels ever sailed by the Royal Navy.

The new 65,000-tonne carriers - HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales - will enter service in 2014 and 2016.

Mr Browne said the work would support and create 10,000 jobs across the UK, including those at yards on the Clyde, Rosyth, Portsmouth and Barrow.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: cvf; militarybuildup; navy; royalnavy; uk
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1 posted on 07/25/2007 10:59:44 AM PDT by Rikstir
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To: Rikstir

This is one of the few forms of government employment that is a good idea.


2 posted on 07/25/2007 11:02:41 AM PDT by misterrob ("I've never heard of anyone going on the disabled list with pulled fat." RIP Rod Beck)
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To: Rikstir
Ongoing discussion: Minister confirms carrier orders (UK)
3 posted on 07/25/2007 11:04:00 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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4 posted on 07/25/2007 11:06:51 AM PDT by Rikstir
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Great, now the Royal Navy will have a bigger vessel to surrender to the iranians without firing a shot; a direct result of the anti-gun culture that permeates the UK. You cannot inculcate a warrior culture into an emasculated gun shy public with a few months of military training. A shooting populace is the backbone of national security.

Anti gun Britain is a disgrace!

5 posted on 07/25/2007 11:10:29 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: Weeedley

funny once man, but its getting tired now. I dont want people stiring up stuff on this thread.

In no uncertain terms I strongly disagree with all the points you have made in your post, and please refrain from anti-uk sentiment in my threads.

cheers.


6 posted on 07/25/2007 11:14:12 AM PDT by Rikstir
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To: Rikstir

Your there I’m here... who is in a position to fix the problem ?


7 posted on 07/25/2007 11:27:31 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: Weeedley

I think 40 F35’s would hardly surrender without firing a shot. And don’t mistake government ordered rules of engagement with a warrior’s willingness to fight. In this age of satphones, I’m sure the ship’s captain was kept on a short leash. Royal Marines wouldn’t let their jack tar’s be taken away and be beaten up, that’s a marines job.


8 posted on 07/25/2007 11:36:44 AM PDT by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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To: Waverunner

When your life is on the line, an experienced warrior shoots fist and consults the book in his spare time.


9 posted on 07/25/2007 11:38:52 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: Waverunner

still kind of small by Nimitz class standards but it is an improvement over no carriers.


10 posted on 07/25/2007 11:41:01 AM PDT by APRPEH (Hillary probably wouldn't approve, but I can live with that.... www.imwithfred.com)
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To: Weeedley
I think they all made it back with no shots fired.
Killing means that your plan didn’t make it overwhelmingly obvious to the other side that they had lost. It’s a waste of people, and contrary to jingoists, Most Iranians are not islamic fanatics waiting for the second coming. The guys in the boats on both sides got orders that were part of a propaganda dance.And the press played on.
11 posted on 07/25/2007 11:50:40 AM PDT by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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To: Waverunner
We are happy they saved their arses somehow, but they sure did not honour British martial traditions that led to empire.
12 posted on 07/25/2007 11:57:25 AM PDT by Weeedley
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To: Rikstir

I’m not sure I would name one Prince of Wales, that didn’t work out to well the last time


13 posted on 07/25/2007 11:59:44 AM PDT by sticker
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To: Waverunner

If you across the pond need a wee bit of bucking up; see this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyUX6wV1lBQ


14 posted on 07/25/2007 12:36:52 PM PDT by Weeedley
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To: Weeedley

You must be thinking about the current crop of liberal, surrender monkeys in the US congress.


15 posted on 07/25/2007 1:00:57 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Rikstir

Good call.


16 posted on 07/25/2007 1:02:18 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: sticker

true, but maybe this one will have better fortunes!


17 posted on 07/25/2007 1:17:17 PM PDT by Rikstir
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To: APRPEH

will you guys ever appreciate something without having to compare it to your own?

Remember that the UK is similar in size to a US state. So imagine Idaho had its own 65,000 tonne carrier, or even two. And remember that the US spends more on its defence than the next few combined, and know that $8bn dollars for the most advanced carriers on the planet will be money well spent.

Also, the RN does have two carriers in service, a graphic of which is shown in comparison to the new CVF’s at the top of the thread. And a helicopter Landing Platform.


18 posted on 07/25/2007 1:25:30 PM PDT by Rikstir
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“will you guys ever appreciate something without having to compare it to your own?”

I like the Brits quite a bit, but come on - I can’t go a day in any forum on any topic where anything the U.S. has is generally compared - and unfavorably - to something someone else has. Everyone else always has the ‘right’ or ‘better’ or ‘funnier’ or ‘better written’ way, and so on and so forth.


19 posted on 07/25/2007 1:36:40 PM PDT by Sandreckoner
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thats as may be FRiend, but I’m just trying to get a response from a uk perspective. I can’t speak for other threads, but this one is trying to keep the fun and games to a minimum.


20 posted on 07/25/2007 1:44:24 PM PDT by Rikstir
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