Posted on 07/25/2007 2:45:18 AM PDT by ari-freedom
Again, what makes you think he is controlling Thompson’s border policy!?
Au contraire, you precisely know the flow and nature of a candidate's would-be Administration by the senior advisory powers he surrounds himself with, in the early days--the tit-for-tat is that most of them are promised, or their select friends and associates, positions of influential administrative power if the team is successful. This is a cold, undisputed organizational reality which I did not know in my 20s when voting and supporting certain candidates for President, foolishly seduced by their cleverly crafted, focus-group sculpted stump speeches only.
Come on. Let's move past that, OK?
Analysis of organizational structure and backgrounds of the "players* is one of the few windows we have as to what is to come, IMHO. The rest is taken on sheer faith. Verily, the rest is all just campaign rhetoric which has about as much effect on me these days as party platforms--which together with $3.50, can buy you a coffee at Starbucks.
The Abraham selection is rather troubling.
So Fred supports an Amnesty.
I think when the elections get a lot closer than 16 months, all of the scumbags candidates will be interested in closing the border.
I think he will support the best possible solution to a bad situation. If in the end that is full amnesty, again, the that maybe it. But before you go running off talking about Hunter or Paul or whomever, they to, in the end will have to do something along those lines. There is not the will, time or treasure to round up 12 million souls and ship them back. It just won’t happen.
What about Employer sanctions after a short period of delayed action?
Have you read this yet?
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/07/jihad_fred_fred.html
This is not by ...pro-abortion liberal Democrat Debbie Stabenow,
that bothers me a lot more than immigration policy
Yes but were told he is a really good organizer...
What willthat do as far as handling the 12 million?
Look I don’t like it, I am as conservative as the next guy. But I am also realistic and don’t live in a world where quick slogans answer big problems. Face it, even if (and this kills it already but I’ll play the game) we could logistically get the man power and tools, say that it was all done in a timely fashion, we are talking about the federal government here, and if we could get the press not to try and spin it as bad, you know our press we love so much, we are still left with one big problem. The general public, which right now doesn’t like amnesty because it is all remote in their minds, who are decent enough people, will go nuts the first time images are displayed of federal agents rounding up the illegals. Over night our heroic new boarder guards and INS agents will become jack booted thugs and images of Nazis carrying people off to the concentration camps will be played over and over on TV in front of them. There will be a million Elian Gonzales episodes on national TV.
Then you know what will happen? Yup, that first plane of detainees will turn right around and come back. Worse, and this is the real kicker, that carefully crafted fence will be gone, because every bleeding heart group will be decrying the plight of the other poor in Mexico saying “what about these poor people, prisoners of a corrupt system” and the majority will fall for it, hook line and sinker because that is the way things go.
So it boils down to do you want a fence and 12 million new wage earners we work into the system, or open boarders, 30 million immigrants happily allowed in because we were “so harsh and cruel”
It sucks, but it’s reality.
Lock it down, work ‘em in, and never let it happen again.
bttt
2 weeks ago, the nominationwas his to lose, but very slowly and methodically, he seems to be blowing it.
>- Abraham was one of only two U.S. Senators who refused to sign an October 2000 letter...condemning terrorist acts by Yasser Arafat and the P.L.O.<
That’s the kind of thing that shows his deep feelings, IMO. What would his reaction have been if he was in the WH when 911 happened?
Let’s hope Hunter climbs out of the shadows and takes the lead.
If we nominate Rudy, we’d have to apologize to Clinton. If we nominate a guy who has this kind of man running his campaign, we’ll have to apologize to Pelosi. That’s a shameful place for American conservatives to be in.
If we nominate someone who articulates a patriotic conservative philosophy clearly, the winning will take care of itself.
But I'm concerned about Abraham and will be doing more checking on Thompson's reaction to our stuned reactions here on FR.
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