[leilani]

This just bites.

To the bone.

Speechless.

NOBODY is that dumb.

Are they?

[Steve_Seattle]

"NOBODY is that dumb."

That's what I said after Landis. But then there were Riis and Basso and Zabel and Vino and ongoing suspicions of Valverde and Rasmussen. So maybe "everybody does it" is basically true and that's why they are all so "stupid" and proclaim their innocence - they think, since everybody does it, it's not really cheating.

The shame is that - doping or not - these are tremendous athletes who push their bodies to extremes unimaginable in other sports, and this gets forgotten.