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Should the DailyKos be Subject to the Federal Election Commission? [Hell no!!]
BC Magazine ^ | 7/23/07 | John Bambenek

Posted on 07/23/2007 6:30:32 PM PDT by indigo5

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To: indigo5

“Monsieur L’Abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write.”

Voltaire


61 posted on 07/24/2007 6:29:47 AM PDT by sono (Where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence - M Gandhi)
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To: Maceman

> One could make the same claim about FR.

People are jumping up and down calling this a first amendment issue - I don’t see it that way. Nothing in the complaint suggests that KOS can’t post whatever it likes; it merely says that it must report its financial activities. If they are making cash or “in-kind” donations to specific candidates, that needs to be disclosed. If they are not spending funds specifically to promote the election of specific candidates, they should tell the FEC to bugger off.

As far as I know, Free Republic does not expend funds to hold campaign events for specific candidates, and does not make donations to specific candidates. If I am mistaken, then I think FR should have to report those as well. Its not the speech - its the money.

They can say anything they damn well please at KOS as far as I am concerned. But if they are acting as a conduit for campaign donations, I think the public has a right to know.

But I am fully in agreement with gutting the FEC. I think the only thing the FEC should be doing is making sure candidates report who their donors are - that is what matters to me; knowing who a candidate is beholden to.


62 posted on 07/24/2007 6:30:23 AM PDT by NoBullZone
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To: Maceman

“FR will very definitely be supporting the Republican candidate against the Democrat candidate in the 2008 general election.”
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Even Rudy?


63 posted on 07/24/2007 6:54:03 AM PDT by Roccus (Able Danger??? What's an Able Danger?????)
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To: Roccus

“Even Rudy?”

No, he said Republican./sarc.


64 posted on 07/24/2007 6:58:38 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: TonyRo76
Amen! I despise the idea of ever giving government any power over our opponents that they could potentially some day turn around and use against us.

Of course on principle, I just despise the idea of giving government any more power, period.

I'm with you.

Not only is it short-sighted, but it's also hypocritical. It's not about the Constitution and what's right, but about political expediency.

65 posted on 07/24/2007 7:03:08 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

BTTT


66 posted on 07/24/2007 7:04:00 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: All

Doesn’t the Daily Kos himself and his forum posters try to get politicians elected who support this kind of regulation by the FEC?


67 posted on 07/24/2007 7:11:05 AM PDT by Madeleine Ward
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To: Jim Robinson; conservatism_IS_compassion

BTTT


68 posted on 07/24/2007 7:13:02 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: BearCub

As far as I know, Jim isn’t getting payments through his “Consulting Firm” to push certain candidates on Free Republic.

Kos - Armstrong Blogola Scandal
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/06/kos_-_armstrong_blogola_scandal/


69 posted on 07/24/2007 7:53:11 AM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE Democrat! You'll look GREAT in Burqa!)
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To: indigo5

DailyKos should be vilified because it is a hate-mongering, Jew-baiting, America-bashing cesspool which frequently has posters calling for people they don’t agree with to be murdered. But it is all free speech, and therefore the Feds need to keep their paws off.


70 posted on 07/24/2007 8:39:34 AM PDT by montag813
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There should only be one election rule, full discloser of support. If i know who is supporting a canidate i can make my own judgements on the reasons they may support that canidate.


71 posted on 07/24/2007 8:50:28 AM PDT by qman
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To: Redbob; Tribune7
Be fine with me if Daily Kos is busted: irk enough of those screaming half-wits, and maybe we could get McCain-Feingold thrown out, reversed, or just plain written off the books.

Who do you think Russ Feingold is more in tune with, us or the Kos-mics??

I suspect they did violate the law as written.

I suspect they were supporters of CRF

I suspect they would be screeching for punishment and obedience to the letter of the law if the complaint had been filed against a conservative

But despite all that I stand with DK in demanding the complaint be ignored/withdrawn/dismissed.

54 posted on 07/24/2007 9:05:21 AM EDT by Tribune7

Eventually Feingold - hence, McConnell v. FEC - must be overturned, and the sooner the better.

But it is never comfortable being the appellant in a case. And since DailyKos almost certainly promoted "Campaign Finance Reform," it looks better on them than on, say, FR, to have to appeal an adverse judgment under McCain-Feingold. Not only so, but since DailyKos is clearly "guilty" of violating the plain text of McCain, overturning a judgment against DailyKos under McCain could not but overturn McConnell v. FEC, hence McCain, root and branch.


72 posted on 07/24/2007 9:10:57 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Maceman
FR is pretty damn active in supporting candidates, publicizing campaign activities, mustering shows of activist support. Once the general election starts, FR will certainly be aggressive enough in supporting the Republican candidate.

You're right about that. If you type in the URL www.fredrepublic.com, it redirects to Free Republic. This is the first time I've ever been on the side of Daily Kos. It's interesting to think about the rejoicing in moonbatland if this action had been against FR instead.

73 posted on 07/24/2007 9:16:33 AM PDT by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: Maceman

YOu can make the same argument, but you would be wrong.


74 posted on 07/24/2007 9:45:59 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: pnh102

No real American would allow himself to be appointed to the FEC anyway.


75 posted on 07/24/2007 9:47:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: nina0113
Might have ~ the thought seems familiar.

There's a town in Afghanistan where they could never agree on their rules of hospitality. Consequently they all decided that no guests would be allowed, and if someone tried to get into the town they'd just kill him.

My idea is to allow Congress-critters only one term, but during that term they get to cheat, mess with interns, run around on their spouses, steal the public's money, and raise general cain, but at the end of the term we take them out and execute them.

I have no doubt there'd never be a shortage of candidates for public office! Probably many of the same ones we have now.

76 posted on 07/24/2007 9:57:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
YOu can make the same argument, but you would be wrong.

Really? Tell me about that after the final nominees for Dems and Repubs are official, and FR goes full bore into supporting the Republican candidate.

Besides, YOU might think I'm wrong, but I doubt that the democrat sympathizers at the FEC would think so.

77 posted on 07/24/2007 9:58:37 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: NoBullZone
I don't think the "public", whatever that might be, has a "right to know" about how political parties and politicians deal with the money they use to support their campaigns ~ that is, their speech.

It's time to strip the buttinsky laws from the books. This should be a Free Republic with Free People.

78 posted on 07/24/2007 9:59:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Maceman
FR is a discussion forum. It does not actively campaign for anything. On the other hand, there are posters on this forum who do actively campaign, and sometimes for people some of the other posters don't like.

There is no doubt a political concensus that forms here, but this is not an active arm of the Republican party.

I'll give you an example. Probably 99% of the regulars at FR think Tom Davis (R) of Northern Virginia is a mind-numbed, quasi-Liberal RINO. And, he is, of course, but if his opponent is a Democrat I assure you that Tom is the least of our worries so I will probably campaign for him.

Now that doesn't mean I agree with him; just that his opponent will be a sniveling little hateful piece of garbage who should be exiled to an isolated frozen piece of real estate than to take a chance of him or her being in Congress.

And that's not even partisan.

79 posted on 07/24/2007 10:06:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I think you have a good argument there, and certainly it is one that I would make if I were representing FR in a battle over this issue.

But we have both been around long enough to know that having the better argument is not often the key to winning in highly politicized process and regulatory actions.

The “Fairness Doctrine” is an example. It is blatantly unconstitutional and wrong-headed, but that doesn’t mean its passage isn’t a threat if the left happens to be in political power.


80 posted on 07/24/2007 10:21:08 AM PDT by Maceman
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