Sen. Mike Enzi introduces bill to wipe out tobacco in America in a generation

Mike Enzi (R-Wyo) Senate.gov Page ^ | July 19, 2007 | Mike Enzi

[Chode]

none of them have the BALLS to try and make it illegal... vermin.

[Brujo]

Umm, how is stopping a subsidy (which I've been informed actually is a price support program) an “assault by the govt.”? If anything, it's the government removing itself from interfering in a market.

As far as I can tell (totally anecdotal, of course), alcohol abuse does seem to cause more trouble in general than smoking cigarettes, but even there it's the abuse that causes the trouble, not (moderate) use.

I didn't call for and don't want anyone to be purged. I am just curious why a government that disparages the use of something (tobacco) would financially support its growth.

[Theodore R.]

Exactly, for the same reason Abraham Lincoln went to war: to keep southern tariff collections intact!

[revolted]

Only in that this city brought into world view the sad state of affairs brought on by the continuation of a dependancy of people on the government. I wasn’t implying to get rid of New Orleans.
I believe I mentioned the word

change

And really any large city has similar concerns.
It would just be nice to see that mind set of a welfare state changed over the next generation.

In other words, instead of trying to change cigarettes in a generation why not try to change something more important to the growth of our entire country.

[Eric Blair 2084]

Exactly, for the same reason Abraham Lincoln went to war: to keep southern tariff collections intact!

That statement just went over the head of every public school educated adult who hasn't taken advanced U.S. History courses in college. The dumbed down version is that the Civil War was fought because of slavery.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Wow, a Republican is doing this. Well, at least he isn't pushing for an outright ban like a Dim would, and there's a hint of the free market in his proposal.

So it's best to just support him because the Dem would certainly be far worse.

[Eric Blair 2084]

EEE, there is more to it. Read the alternative proposal supported by the health groups and MO.

Before we all dump on Enzi, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[eXe]

Amen.. we tried to warn and warn that us smokers are just the start.. once they pull of a tobacco ban, you can bet that food and anything else the govt wants banned will be next.

Oh well.. when the day smoking makes me an outlaw, I stop caring.

[Dahoser]

Title IV: Increasing the tobacco excise tax

I don't know why these clymers bother with any other title, point, section, bullet, heading, whatever, in these proposals when the only thing they really want to do is raise taxes so they have more money to spend. And a conservative Republican no less!

[Zon]

Thanks for the link.

Belter told the House that committee members were frustrated last week with the testimony from anti-tobacco groups that testified against the tobacco ban, including the North Dakota Medical Association, American Heart Association, American Cancer Society, American Lung Association, North Dakota Public Health Association and North Dakota Nurses Association.

The ban also could take away certain funding forthese groups for tobacco control programs. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/827172/posts

[Eric Blair 2084]

PS: A liberal dim wouldn’t dare push for an outright ban on tobacco. Where else are they going to get the money to pay for their vision of a Socialist Utopia?

[Eric Blair 2084]

Foolish me. I thought there were real Republicans in Wyoming.

Give it a chance to play out. When health groups don't support the quasi ban, the few people left who thinks this is about health or second hand smoke will get a bucket of cold water poured over their heads.

[Eric Blair 2084]

--seriously, I thought this was an Onion or the AZConservative satire stuff, at first---

No, that would be something like this...

Man’s Impending Death To Be Caused By Second Hand Smoke

When I posted it on FR, some intelligent people thought it was real. Just proves that life imitates the onion.

[Just another Joe]

Need a customer, or maybe a bunch of customers.

Co-Ops, the wave of the future.

[RinaseaofDs]

I can’t believe you are familiar with Carrie Nation!!

I’m one of her last remaining blood relatives. Most of the stuff in the Carrie Nation museum in Kansas was donated by my Mom.

Interesting cat.

[RedMonqey]

Sen. Mike Enzi introduces bill to wipe out tobacco in America in a generation

Careful Senator. There;s PETA who think Beef should be gone in a generation too

And WHY is it ANY of the govt's business anyhow?

Big government Rino alert.

[BlackbirdSST]

Foolish me. I thought there were real Republicans in Wyoming.

Actually, what we're seeing is the "real" Republican, at least the 21st Century version. The ride is completely downhill from here on out. Blackbird.

[BlackbirdSST]

It must be in the water in D.C.

I drank the water in and around DeeCee for 20+ years, it ain't the water. Blackbird.

[BlackbirdSST]

You can get as much nicotine as you want, as long as you buy it from Pfizer or Merck in one of their NRT products.

...or tomatoes. Blackbird.

[kingu]

Are you nuts! You can’t have that! The All Powerful Ones declared that’s bad for you, and since they’re going to eventually ram their health care down our throats, they’ll be able to dictate everything we do. How long until your club card at your market gets attached to your national health care? Penalties for those twinkies, not enough fruit - eat more vegetables else we’ll raise your premiums!