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To: Alas Babylon!
Curious thing. Even on Immigration you had Talk Radio hosts that were on the other side from the Majority. Know the one thing they are all 100% for?

Winning in Iraq.

Even rabid whiners like Savage and Ingraham cannot stomach the Democrats Cut and Run dogma.

You are confusing real supporters of the war with the DC Old Boy like like Warner, Alexander etc who were never really on our side. They had to be dragged kicking and screaming to do something after 09-11, and merely found the quickest way to get back to their per 09-11 Neo Isolationists (aka “Realist”) world view. Why do you thing the Republican Old Boys in the Senate pushed so hard for the ISG to be formed? Because they knew with the right people on it it would give them the political coverage they needed to surrender on Iraq

The “Falling away” in DC is the posturing of politicians who merely found it convent to ditch a position they never really wanted to have to embrace in the 1st place.

That one of the interesting things. The old boys in the Establishment, on both sides (i.e. the Appeasement Now Left and the Isolationist Right) have a lot more in common with each other then they do with the American people.

For them 09-11 was just a chance thing that now that they have passed some laws and spent some money they don’t ever have to worry about. To the DC Machine 09-11 is no reason for them to give up the political dogmas they have spent their whole lives defending.

Like most people living in a bubble world, the DC Political-media machine simply tunes out all uncomfortable facts to cling to their comfortable self satisfied existence.

Not even a catastrophic event like 09-11 can really get the DC Dinosaurs to fundamentally alter their world view and their pat political dogmas. They can be forced for a time by an overwhelming response by the America people to pretend to change but in the end they always revert to form.

That is one of the reasons Term Limits makes so much sense. By about the 3 or 4th term they have become so isolated by their staffs, and the DD Media machine, from reality they simply stop being the people’s Representatives.

214 posted on 07/22/2007 10:42:59 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ignorance can be cured by education, stupidity is a terminal condition)
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To: MNJohnnie
Very good points Johnnie.

However, I meant falling away by locals, not DC politicians. I can tell you I am one of the few in my town who fully support our war in Iraq, for the reasons you so masterfully laid out on your Homepage, among other things.

My discouragement stems from this nosedive of public support I’ve been witnessing. At my church this morning, many agreed with the deacon’s prayer for the “safe and immediate return of out boys fighting in Iraq”. I told him outside, after services, that I’m for their return as soon as they’ve won. Many (who agreed with me before) stopped to argue with me then. I brought up all the points I mentioned in post # 56, which mostly shut them up, but I’m saddened I had to do so with some of them.

215 posted on 07/22/2007 10:51:13 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: MNJohnnie
Exactly it’s like kabar said last week the dems have already made up their mind no matter what happens with the surge or anything else.Their mantra is all ready to print in the tombs of the msm/rat media.
242 posted on 07/22/2007 12:25:29 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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