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To: BlackbirdSST
Cool! Leave your ID @ home. Maybe you can get caught up in one of our dog and pony deportation raids, get deported to the land you love, and live the good life hiking back across the desert, get caught again by one of our un-incarcerated Border Patrol Agents, and start the cycle all over again. That would be worth the price of a ticket. Let me know when the show starts. I live in Montana and need some lead time. Thanks! Blackbird.

You aren't suggesting that merely having the appearance of being Mexican is enough to bring about trouble are you? Nah, I know you couldn't be suggesting anything like that, because this isn't about race. I know it's not about race because you guys keep swearing it's not about race...between veiled racial comments.

Btw, I'm scots-irish and native American as in Cherokee, and yes, I'm often mistaken for a Mexican.

54 posted on 07/22/2007 6:41:53 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Melas; Czar; BlackbirdSST; Ladycalif
You aren't suggesting that merely having the appearance of being Mexican is enough to bring about trouble are you? Nah, I know you couldn't be suggesting anything like that, because this isn't about race. I know it's not about race because you guys keep swearing it's not about race...between veiled racial comments.

When you know that Arabs flew airplanes into the trade towers, murdering over 3,000 in one day. It would be, and is, pretty dumb to go after blond haired, blue-eyed grannies. Much the same as it would be to believe that of the 24 MILLION ILLEGALS IN THIS COUNTRY, most of whom are from Mexico, look like White Anglo Saxon Protestants....but you knew that, didn't you? Because you see, this isn't about a "race thing" it's about a LAW ENFORCEMENT thing.


SCOTUS HAS RULED:
Local Law Enforcement may cooperate with Immigration Enforcement
In a March 22, 2005 ruling, in Muehler v Mena, in unanimous decision from a Court known for its 5-4 splits, the United States Supreme Court essentially said that asking about immigration status during a lawful police contact (or, by implication, any lawful contact) was as fundamental a question as asking for name, address and date of birth. Indeed, the Court made clear that no predicate "independent reasonable cause' need exist to inquire into immigration status. It is the Law of the Land.

Calling a decision by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals “faulty,” the Supreme Court held that “mere police questioning [regarding one’s immigration status] does not constitute a seizure.” The Court continued its landmark ruling on this issue by stating that “the officers did not need reasonable suspicion to ask Mena for her name, date of birth, or immigration status.”...

If there were even a hint that merely asking about immigration status is discriminatory (as claimed by proponents of the proposed Ordinance), then you might expect to have had at least one dissenter in that decision: Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg. Justice Ginsberg was general counsel of the ACLU from 1973 to 1980 and sat on its National Board of Directors from 1974 to 1980. Justice Ginsberg's joining the entire court in this decision speaks volumes about its judicial wisdom and legal common sense.

Congress expressly intended for local law enforcement to act in cases in which officers have reason to believe that an individual is in the country illegally, even though immigration law enforcement is not their primary responsibility. In 1996, Congress passed and President Clinton signed legislation that protects individual officers who act to enforce federal immigration laws, even if their departments have non-cooperation policies.

56 posted on 07/22/2007 6:49:33 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Melas
You aren't suggesting that merely having the appearance of being Mexican is enough to bring about trouble are you? Nah, I know you couldn't be suggesting anything like that, because this isn't about race. I know it's not about race because you guys keep swearing it's not about race...between veiled racial comments.

I suggested no such thing, funny in your haste to make it racist, you fingered yourself. LOL! Btw, I'm scots-irish and native American as in Cherokee, and yes, I'm often mistaken for a Mexican.

See what I mean? Blackbird.

64 posted on 07/22/2007 8:56:54 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (I'm dug in, giving no more ground to the rino stampede. BB)
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