Posted on 07/20/2007 4:27:18 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
NEW YORK A feature piece in this coming Sunday's New York Times Magazine on Republican candidate for president, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, portrays his followers as including a wild mix of "wackos" on both ends of the political spectrum. Paul, a libertarian, has been gaining media and public attention of late.
The cover line reads: "A Genuine Radical for President." The headline inside: "The Antiwar, Anti-Abortion, Anti-Drug-Enforcement-Administration, Anti-medicare Candidacy of Dr. Ron Paul."
The article closes with the author, Christopher Caldwell, attending a Ron Paul Meetup in Pasadena. The co-host, Connie Ruffley of United Republicans of California, admits she once was a member of the radical right John Birch Society and when she asks for a show of hands "quite a few" attendees reveal that they were or are members, too. She refers to Sen. Dianne Feinstein as "Fine-Swine" and attacks Israel, pleasing some while others "walked out."
Caldwell notes that the head of the Pasadena Meetup Group, Bill Dumas, sent a desperate letter to Paul headquarters: "We're in a difficult position of working on a campaign that draws supporters from laterally opposing points of view, and we have the added bonus of attracting every wacko fringe group in the country....We absolutely must focus on Ron's message only and put aside all other agendas, which anyone can save for the next 'Star Trek' convention or whatever."
Asked about the John Birch Society Society by the author, Paul responds, "Is that BAD? I have a lot of friends in the John Birch Society. They're generally well-educated and they understand the Constitution. I don't know how many positions they would have that I don't agree with."
The writer concludes that the "antigovernment activists of the right and the antiwar activists of the left" may have "irreconciable" differences. But "their numbers -- and anger -- are of considerable magnitude. Ron Paul will not be the next president of the United States. But his candidacy gives us a good hint about the country the next president is going to have to knit back together."
Among many other things, we learn from the article that Paul had never heard of "The Daily Show" until he was a guest and referred to the magazine GQ as "GTU." It also notes that he was the only congress member to vote against the Financial Antiterrorism Act and a medal to honor Rosa Parks, among many others tallies, based on principle, not politics. He also is praised by liberal Rep. Barney Frank as "one of the easiest" members to work with because "he bases his positions on the merits of issues."
An addendum to your post Eric - Friedman was one of three nobel laureates who signed on to endorse this research.
Good point. Thanks.
Let’s drag this debate out of the gutter and forget about weed for crying out loud.
The objection to Ron Paul is his position againt the Iraq invasion/war. His Constitutionalist/Libertarian principles are a breath of fresh air. It washes away the fetid breath of totalitarianism from both parties. To my Paulistinian friends here:
What I say to people at a barbecue is this...there are millions of mosquitoes here on the porch. We can try to catch them one at a time. Or better yet, what about putting a big blue light hanging from a pole. All of the pests will go there and we can kill them. That’s what Iraq is.
A Roach Motel.
The jihadists check in...but they don’t check out.
Ditto. Good night.
Actually, I just looked that up. It's still around.
His threads should be labeled buffoon alert
Ron Paul is the Lyndon LaRouche of the right.
[the candidacy of Ron Paul is] .. Anti-American
He was the only Republican to vote against supporting Israel last summer and voted alongside Kucinich in not condemning Iran’s president for Holocaust denial.
You mean the one presidential candidate that has agreed with 70 democrats to cut off funding to our troops on the battlefield, so they can not eat or have ammunition to fight al Qaeda that attacked us on 9/11? You are talking about that candidate, paulnut?
the fact that Ron Paul is a tool for 911 conspiracy kooks, and himself aligning with Rosie O’Donald and Cindy Sheehan should be highly suspect of any member of Freerepublic.
Ron Paul 2008 threads should belong on DU, not Freerepublic. It is no longer about Dr. Paul’s stance on the Constitution. He is a certifiable nut-case.
Their Absolutist mentality as the Ron Paul type are no different than the Islam O Fascists
libertarianism is the cousin of anarchy.
this blame America first, white flag waver
If you are for Ron Paul, you are no supporter of America
How can any decent human being who also happens to be a member of Freerepublic NOT see the insanity of propagating kook conspiracies
at least I’m not a surrender monkey
I will make you Paulistinians eat these words until there is no longer a Ron Paul 08 campaign and beyond.
Ron Paul is a tool for 911 conspiracy kooks
a white flag waving, anti-American, coward like Ron Paul.
things that sound like he is a member of DU he turns us off and makes himself out to be a nut.
He is called anti-American because of his Blame America First statements
He wants to surrender to the terrorists in Iraq. What could be more anti-American?
Freerepublic should not be a forum to propagate hate against America and to further kook conspiracy theories championed by Rosie O’Donald and Cindy Sheehan
Take the Ron Paul nut-ball campaign to some forum composed of like minded wackos
That’s correct. He just keep repeating what’s been completely disputed several times, never answers any questions, and returns to call names. Easiest to just ignore him. I figure, he must be working for the Rudy G campaign or maybe the democraps. One can only reason with somebody who is reasonable...uses some logic. -Glenn
“Well, you travel in narrow circles. And to suggest that Paul is a dope smoker, when he is well known as not one, shows your ignorance.”
Looks like lormand travels under 2 names...at least.-Glenn
“Looks like lormand travels under 2 names...at least.-Glenn”
That, or they both went to the same pro julieannie anti paul rote memorization indoctrination camp for the posting challenged. For now, I’m leaning toward multiple accounts.
Yes they are, Willis Carto and the boys.
As I noted earlier, the references to Paul's regular participation at AFP I could find Friday were largely from blogs and Wiki, which I don't particularly find reliable. Links to what appear to be articles were dead. However below is an excerpt from the American Free Press Media Guide, my increased type size. If Ron Paul isn't an AFP columnist, he's being presented as one to advertisers. IMO an amazingly stupid association for a Presidential candidate.
Here’s a partial list of our best-known journalists:
James P. Tucker Jr. is well-known for his pursuit of the Bilderberg
Group, a coterie of powerbrokers, industry magnates, journalists,
media moguls and world leaders that meet in secret in a different world
venue every year. Alone among American newspapers, only AFP brings
you information on this shadowy cabal. Jim also pens our weekly
Spotlight on Congress feature which keeps you abreast of all the important
legislation before lawmakers and what it means to you. Jim was
recently featured on a History Channel documentary.
Mike Blair, best known for his ground-breaking work exposing the U.S.
government’s abandonment of American POWs and MIAs in Korea
and Vietnam, specializes in military affairs and domestic affairs. Blair
was cited by Project Censored for having uncovered the top “most censored”
story of 1990—a scheme to scuttle the Bill of Rights in the name
of “fighting crime.”
Christopher Bollyn’s coverage of the depleted uranium issue and also
his groundbreaking reports on Sept. 11, has gotten him a bevy of
admiring followers. Christopher, who is fluent in five languages, also
mans the international desk, travelling the world for on the spot coverage
in Europe, South America and the Mideast.
MEDIA KIT 1
American Free Press
For Life & Liberty . . .
Against the New World Order.
Greg Szymanski is a freelance investigative journalist and feature
writer based in Ventura, California. A law school graduate from
Glendale University College of Law, he also specializes in constitutional
issues and judicial injustice.
Michael Collins Piper, a journalist specializing in media critique, is
the author of Final Judgment, the controversial “underground bestseller”
documenting the collaboration of Israeli intelligence in the
assassination of John F. Kennedy. He is also the author of The High
Priests of War and The New Jerusalem. Piper has lectured on these topics
in places as diverse as Kuala Lumpur, Tokyo, Toronto, Moscow,
Abu Dhabi and America.
We are also proud to publish these columnists:
Rep. Ron Paul, a medical doctor, is a Republican member of the U.S.
Congress who represents the 14th District of Texas. Often called “Dr.
No” because he bucks his party establishment, refusing to support
policies contrary to traditional constitutional principles, Paul was
the Libertarian Party presidential candidate in 1988.
Paul Craig Roberts, Ph.D., a former editor at The Wall Street Journal,
is the author of several books. He has been associated with the
Hoover Institution, and the Institute for Political Economy and from
1981 to 1982 served as assistant secretary of the treasury for economic
policy.
Charley Reese is a nationally syndicated columnist whose no-holdsbarred
style has won him a host of devoted followers who relish his
free-wheeling, unabashed love of the truth, no matter whose ox is
gored. Long associated with The Orlando Sentinel, Reese was formerly
active in a variety of state, local and national political endeavors.
As you'll note from post 291, what they'll conclude is that Ron Paul writes a column for the American Free Press. For simplicity, my posts below.
A tad more concerning than the JBS or his regular guesting on conspiracy shows, another freeper pointed out to me that he apparently writes a column for the American Free Press. For those not familiar with it that's Willis Cartos lightweight companion to the Barnes Review, a full fledged Holocaust denial publication. AFP founded by Willis Carto after the Spotlight and Liberty Lobby went belly up. Carto also known for morphing youth for Wallace into the National Alliance over the years, a group he lost control of to William Pierce.
I haven't had time to look for what I'm told is a weekly commentary, I don't have easy access to the print version and saw only one Ron Paul article on their website (one too many), but if he's writing for Willis Carto, for distribution to the Barnes/National Alliance/IHR cadre of racists and Jew haters, obviously to gain their support, imo he's disqualified for public office and should be admonished by the Republican Party.
I'd be curious if anyone could shed some light on his participation at American Free Press.
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Posted by SJackson to jrooney; Puddleglum; lormand
On News/Activism 07/20/2007 8:31:26 PM CDT · 90 of 489
Yes, I saw that, wikipedia contends he writes a weekly column as well, but I wouldn't rely on wikipedia, they're known to be wrong, and have a bias.
A quick search turned up a half dozen or so links for a "by Ron Paul", below in case someone wants to check other search engines, but the archives don't seem to be working, so I can't see if they're in fact by Paul. The weekly column I just don't know about other than references on Wiki and a few other places.
Puddleglum, you seem to be skeptical, as you should be. I am, and thus far the association may be only tangental. Though from a political perspective even if only 6 columns were printed, an elected official who allows that is a moron.
Do I take it from your tone that you're not convinced of the connection, it's not definitive to me. But if he is regularly printed there, which requires his participation, do you agree that it's a despicable thing to do, and a virtual disqualifier to most people to public office?
AM, apologies for the links, but they seem appropriate.
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Posted by SJackson to KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
On News/Activism 07/20/2007 8:39:21 PM CDT · 96 of 489
Don't you love it, premier purveyor of hate, it's just some odd theories.
Puddleglum, if you really don't know about AFP or the Barnes Review or Spotlight or the Institute for Historical Review or the National Alliance or Willis Carto or William Pierce or the former National Youth Alliance or the recent version of the Populist Party, you should learn before you embarass yourself by defending these people by dismissing them as simply having "odd theories".
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Posted by SJackson to lormand
On News/Activism 07/20/2007 8:40:40 PM CDT · 98 of 489
When you lie with dogs, you get fleas.
That works for you and I. For a Presidential candidate, the fleas become cabinet members, a far more serious issue.
----------------------------Note my post 61. If true, and I'd like to find out if it is, Stormfront would be more appropriate. Can you prove any of this? Can you produce any of these weekly articles for a Nazi publication?
Absolutely not, I don't trust wikipedia or blogs, and I don't have access to the paper version. I noted that above if you'd bothered to read. In fact I provided some non functioning links in case anyone has time to check archives.
Since you refer to AFP as a Nazi publication, it's really more of an introductory piece, I assume you agree he has no business writing there.
Gee, "another freeper" did that, eh? I don't suppose you could tell us who?
If you want ot call me a liar, grow a set, beating around the bush is cowardly.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1868638/posts?page=93#93
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1868638/posts?page=114#114
But you got in a nice accusation, weighted with plenty of background and some Ron-Paul-sure-seems-like-a-Nazi innuendo but with sufficient room to disavow it later. Nice work.
Again, read the posts. I've questioned the sources, like Wikipedia, which many Freepers rely on as fact.
You're not telling the truth. Frequently that works, but you'd be surprised some people go back and read the posts.
And yes, for his white supremecist/Christian Identity supporters, and it's not his fault he has them, Stormfront would be a better venue than DU for posting
And enjoy posting your banner.
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BTW bozo, you need to clarify this "another agenda" stuff if you have the courage.
And you put the death camp stuff where the sun don't shine, as I've noted before the fixation by a few of the Paul supporters here on Jews, the Holocaust and Israel is a bit odd.
I haven't a clue how they got in there, however you'll not from post 491 they advertise him as a columnist, so it's reasonable to assume he's a columnist.
I haven't a clue how Ron Pauls beliefs correlate with Carto's publications. They probably devote more print to anti- Bush, anti-war articles and anti-Israel at AFT, the Holocaust denial stuff is much heavier at Barnes.
Myself, I don't even care about his views, his association with this group, this is a horrendous place for him to be, at the very least, looking for support.
All the smears fit to print. Good to see the Fred and Rudy fans have finally come out in the open and declared the veracity of the MSM, as well as their penchant for tarring by association. It is easy to see how if Fred and Rudy were held to the same standards they would both be found wanting.
BTW, I don't think I posted a link and that forbidden site like that St*rmfr*nt , I posted links to that forbidden (for FR posting) American Free Press, which is banned here, so be sure to post Paul's columns from somewhere else
You really have to work on this conspiracy stuff, people might think you're a nutjob.
It would appear from the voting patterns that the only candidates that can look for support from the powerful AIPAC lobby are our leftist democratic politicians. Why is that Jackson? They are more dedicated as a voting bloc to a socialist America run by democrats then even the African American voting bloc. And your underhanded efforts to smear Dr. Paul as anti Jewish smells of AIPAC tactics...and the tactics of the DNC. I always thought you to be above that Jackson.
BTW, I get Ron Pauls weekly columns via e-mail. They are not copywrited. Anyone can print his articles anywhere.
So why don't you attack the substance of what he writes instead of who prints his work.
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