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To: Ping-Pong
In Jer.4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was (became) without form, and void; and the heavens and they had no light. ---That is not about Judea only.

The hebrew word used for earth in the 23rd verse of Jeremiah 4, is the same word used for earth in 2nd verse of Genesis 1:

776 'erets eh'-rets

from an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or partitively a land):--X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X natins, way, + wilderness, world.

Remember though, that words with multiple meanings are contingent upon context, so in this case, earth simply means land, and not the earth as as a whole. Even in our language we often refer to such vast open areas of land as earth, without signifying the planet as a whole.

Additionally, such descriptive language as is seen in verse 23, in my mind, corresponds quite well with a catastrophic war zone. You may disagree however.

I'm not saying that you're definitely wrong....all I'm saying is that I just don't see your interpretation when taken in context.

302 posted on 07/23/2007 5:30:58 PM PDT by csense
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To: csense; Diego1618
What a pleasure you are to discuss this with. Thank you.

Additionally, such descriptive language as is seen in verse 23, in my mind, corresponds quite well with a catastrophic war zone. You may disagree however.

I would agree except that the "heavens had no light" and "there was no man and all the birds of the heavens were fled.".

Too...in vs.28 it tells us that God will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.. If comparing the end times with the first destruction, as I believe the verses tell us, then it is much deeper than just the city of Jerusalem being taken.

1Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. (12) Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

I believe the sacking of Jerusalem was an example for us of end times. That is where the anti-christ will stand pretending to be Christ and that is where Christ will return. The difference will be that the return of Christ will be felt the world over, as the ending of the first age was.

304 posted on 07/23/2007 6:05:54 PM PDT by Ping-Pong
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