Posted on 07/20/2007 5:11:30 AM PDT by Mad Dawg
Oh yes he did, a video and a state that felt sympathy towards minorities.
I know that cursing the darkness is much easier than lighting a candle and all, but I'm intrigued that your response to the article is not only to criticize my failing to edit the email I posted but to do so sarcastically.
Have a nice day and do drop back when you have something to say.
Police misconduct is usually filed with the district attorney or with federal agents. One would hire a lawyer only to collect damages and in most case as clear cut as this the lawyer would do it on a contingency bases.
I agree with you, but just don’t act incredulous when some big gun, little d*ck law enforcement professional overreacts.
It's called a right, not an option.
Example:
I'm asking you to quit posting about this topic now, or you will be (insert abuse of authority here.) If you don't, you are "pushing the envelope" and "looking for a confrontation."
Why don't you say, "Yes Sir" and leave since I'm giving you that option?
Now if you reply to me or anyone else on this thread you will be in violating your very own suggestion. Kinda sucks to be put in a box, doesn't it.
Do you get it now? He had as much right to carry at this event as the police officers, they had no authority to ask him to leave for openly carrying. Why should he back down?
If he had asked the cops to leave, should they have?
Yes he did, he had the ACLU, he had Jesse Jackson, he had almost every black politician and the entire sympathetic MSM on his side. He didn't need any money........Hell, he could have made a fortune alone in selling raffle tickets to the folks who wanted to represent him.
Thanks......
LOL! I was going to use your tag line at first :>)
There was no need to kneel in the gutter, we WERE having a rather civilized discussion, were. I guess if one looks hard enough in my rural community of 400 or so, yes someone here might just maybe might be a gang banger amongst the ranchers and farmers, but the closest I have observed would be the 50-60year old Harley riders that frequent our local watering hole on occassion. They are JUST as likely, as history dictates, to buy me a 40oz beer than spend their time wasting it to do me harm. Like I said, we live differing reality's. That wasn't a slight, it was an observation. Since you don't list on your FReeper page just where you are, I don't have much to work with. I carry open, preferred, nothing left to the imagination. Tough guy? You as well as anyone else on this planet is welcome to test that theory. I ain't hiding, just saying. Blackbird.
I'm out in Chesapeake Bay sailing. I am crossing the bow of a tanker.
I have the right-of-way as I'm under sail.
What do I do? Try to force the tanker to turn away and get run over ?
Or, do the prudent thing and tack out of his way.
Get it?
The more I see of that attitude from public 'servants', the more I like the recall election provisions in our state.
Enough signatures and you can vote to throw the SOBs out.
It does take a pretty major screwup to get people motivated enough, but it has been known to happen.
With five cops who are all swearing that the cuffs were adjusted six times and then removed because the arrestee was cooperative and wasn’t violent, don’t count on it.
See post #223
You should not be so negative, the world is replete with cops getting brought down, Hell two border patrol agents are doing eleven and twelve years for shooting a drug dealer. Four L.A. swat members are doing time for allowing a vicious bank robber to bleed out. Cops are usually held to a higher standard than we are, this is why.
The fact that there are terrorists in the US doesn't alter the right of lawful people to go armed for their own protection, in fact it constitutes one more reason for going armed.
According to VA law it was perfectly legal for the man who was arrested to be armed, and if the account is correct the cops had no reason to suspect him of any wrongdoing. It would not have been out of line for a cop to have asked to see his CC license, and after seeing it that should have ended the confrontation. The cops obviously had something like this in mind before the event or there would not have been a lieutenant there so quickly to order the man's arrest.
Until I can see evidence to the contrary I will continue to believe this was all part of an attempt to intimidate all VA CC licensees into surrendering their right to carry weapons in that jurisdiction.
I hope a successful lawsuit will teach those uniformed thugs and their boss that they aren't the final arbiters of whether or not a law is desirable for their jurisdiction, the law is the law whether cops agree with it or not. But something tells me the cops will win out and the citizen will get the shaft unless the NRA or another org with the money and lawyers to fight it appeals the case to a higher court.
I am friends with half a dozen ‘older’ cops, 45 and above. Have been for years. These are the guys who tell me what’s going on in their departments and how they have the damnedest time trying to get the young officers to think before they act.
I admit that I am leery of younger cops. Probably because of their attitude towards the general public.
It seems that the city has dropped all charges, that would seem to indicate that the police were in error.
>Until I can see evidence to the contrary I will continue to believe this was all part of an attempt to intimidate all VA CC licensees into surrendering their right to carry weapons in that jurisdiction.<
That’s my belief also. How high the intimidation factor reaches would be interesting. Probably into the state police offices.
I'm simply stating that the reality of the issue is that law enforcement and the public are unnerved by guns and anyone who chooses to exercise his rights has to expect incidents. I own and use fire arms and know that more than a few gun nuts have a chip on their shoulder and an indignant "I dare you attitude". I also know that law enforcement is trained to establish and maintain an alpha dog presence in every situation and confrontation, its the nature of the beast. Ol' Chet better pull his head out of his butt before he gets himself or someone else hurt exercising his rights.
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