Radio host condemned for 'Islam is a cult' CAIR cites Neil Boortz for angry confrontation

World Net Daily ^ | 7-19-07

[Bladerunnuh]

The caller began: "Sir, I'm calling because of some statements you've been making in the past week about the religion of Islam and … "

Boortz interrupted: It's a cult, it's not even a religion. … "

After a long list of crimes perpetrated all over the world in the name of Islam, the talk host told the caller, "You don't have a word of condemnation in you until the non-Islamic world rises up and starts to make it clear that we are fed up with your damned religion. We've had it up to here.

"And somebody, like I said yesterday, somebody needs to grab the Muslim world by the shirt collar, backhand it a good one, knock it into the damn corner and say straighten up or we're gonna eradicate you beetles from the face of the Earth. … "

CAIR asked its constituents not to contact Boortz, because he "can and will use any comments to further defame Islam and Muslim."

"This clip was offered only to demonstrate

[dearolddad]

This Neil Boortz' rant is nothing but divisive and inflammatory.

It's also true.

[Jorge]

"I've already stated that I am against public declarations of "eradicating" other religions. "

Good thing Islam is a cult instead of a religion.

Right. And many Protestants call Mormons and Catholics "cults" as well.

Guess they should be "eradicated" too?

[yield 2 the right]

Neal Boortz is not long for the airwaves I fear...

[Jorge]

"However last time I checked we live in a nation that guarantees and protects freedom of religion, and tolerance of different beliefs is a hallmark of that virtue."

Nothing in the Constitution tells me I have to tolerate anything, including idiots and terrorists and cults of death. Go back to the library and look it up. The big words aren't that hard to figure out.

Right. And if you want to promote intolerance and hate and incite violence then I have a "big word" for you too.
INCARCERATION.

[Sherman Logan]

I have no problem with your definition, as long as you don’t try to force others to agree.

You do realize that something around 90% of the world’s population is a member of a cult by your definition, depending on how rigidly you interpret “biblical?” (I’ve known some people who interpreted it very strictly.)

Also, by the definition posted earlier, “a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist,” most of the world probably considers you to be a cult member!

[Man50D]

Nahh. We'll just denounce their religion as being inherently an evil cult and drive them all to take up common cause with the terrorists in self-defense.

Better yet, let's keep appeasing a group of people who seek to destroy us. It worked well for Neville Chamberlain when appeased Hitler.

Can't do anything to drive a wedge between the terrorists, who are indeed, IMHO, practicing a cult, and Muslims who have no desire to kill others. Got to do what we can to make unnecessary enemies, ya know.

You need to pull your head out of the sand and accept the cold hard fact the premise of Islam is to convert, subjugate or destroy anyone who is not Islamic as the following article reveals.

Islamic Scholar Warns U.S. of 'Two-Faced' Muslims

NewsMax.com Wires

Thursday, June 20, 2002

WASHINGTON – A leader of the small worldwide Muslim reform movement is warning the West against wishful thinking as the U.S. government promotes an intensive dialogue with Islam.

"The dialogue is not proceeding well because of the two-facedness of most Muslim interlocutors on the one hand and the gullibility of well-meaning Western idealists on the other," Bassam Tibi said Tuesday in an interview with United Press International.

Syrian-born Tibi, who claims to be a direct descendant of the prophet Mohammed and teaches political science at Goettingen University in Germany, appealed for intellectual honesty in these exchanges.

This Is 'Peace'?

"First, both sides should acknowledge candidly that although they might use identical terms these mean different things to each of them. The word 'peace,' for example, implies to a Muslim the extension of the Dar al-Islam – or 'House of Islam' – to the entire world," explained Tibi, who is also a research scholar at Harvard University.

"This is completely different from the Enlightenment concept of eternal peace that dominates Western thought, a concept developed by Immanuel Kant," an 18th-century philosopher.

This Is 'Tolerance'?

"Similarly, when Muslims and the Western heirs of the Enlightenment speak of tolerance they have different things in mind. In Islamic terminology, this term implies abiding non-Islamic monotheists, such as Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, as second-class believers. They are 'dhimmi,' a protected but politically immature minority."

According to Tibi, the quest of converting the entire world to Islam is an immutable fixture of the Muslim worldview. Only if this task is accomplished, if the world has become a "Dar al-Islam," will it also be a "Dar a-Salam," or a house of peace.

Tibi appealed to his co-religionists to "revise their understanding of peace and tolerance by accepting pluralism." Furthermore, he said, Muslim leaders should give up the notion of Jihad in the sense of conquest, as opposed to Jihad as an internal struggle of the individual.

Liberal Mush

Tibi's advice comes at a time when the U.S. government is urging American Muslim leaders to promote understanding for the United States in Islamic regions. To Tibi, this is more of a diplomatic endeavor than the promotion of a more profound theological understanding between Islam and the Judeo-Christian worldview prevalent in the West.

But Muzammil Siddiqi, one senior Islamic scholar the State Department consults with, told UPI he found that his efforts in furthering contacts between Muslim, Christian and Jewish theologians were having some success.

Indian-born Siddiqi is the director of the large Islamic Center of Orange County in California. In consultation with the State Department and in cooperation with the University of Kentucky, he traveled back and forth between the United States and the Middle East trying to convince Muslim theologians and jurists to meet with American church leaders.

"I have found that many, though not all, were ready to welcome visitors from America and also to come here to explore with Christians and Jews what we have in common," Siddiqi said.

Though Siddiqi's center is heavily engaged in interfaith activities, he made it clear that to him, as indeed for conservative Christians, syncretism – the mixing of religions – was anathema.

Common values should be sought out, he explained, and the equality of all believers respected, be they Muslims, Christians, Hindus or Buddhists. But the purity of the faith must not be compromised.

In an article in the prestigious Hamburg weekly Die Zeit, Tibi gave anecdotal evidence of how daunting a task this dialogue with Islam can be.

Staring in Horror at the Bible

The bishop of Hildesheim in Germany paid an imam a courtesy visit in his mosque. The imam handed the Catholic prelate a Koran, which he joyfully accepted. But when the bishop tried to present the imam with a Bible, the Muslim cleric just stared at him in horror and refused to even touch Christianity's holy book.

"The bishop was irritated because he perceived this behavior as a gross discourtesy," wrote Tibi, "but the imam had only acted according to his faith. For if an imam gives a bishop a Koran, he considers this a Da'Wa, or call to Islam."

This, explained Tibi, must be borne in mind when one engages in a dialogue with Muslim "scholars," for it corresponds to a verse in the Koran: "And say ... to those who are unlearned: 'Do ye submit yourselves?'" (Surah 3:20).

[SteamShovel]

Just what the terrorists want. A religious war.

It already is a religious war from the radicals perspective.

You seem to think that keeping quiet about it will make it not be so. We can do nothing to stop this from being a religious war because it is what they want.

We may as well face it and win it, or we will lose.

[Jorge]

You are as misinformed as the gentleman you quoted. Islam is a murderous CULT that wants nothing more than world domination and you bowing down to them.

Right. And I've heard people say the same about Christians.

Guess you and Neil support "eradicating" them too?

[Sherman Logan]

Actually, Hitler never desired war with Britain, and offered repeatedly to make peace with the British, who he admired as true Aryans.

In Hitler’s theory, the Germans would rule over Europe’s subhumans, and the British would rule, in alliance with Germany, over those outside Europe.

[maine-iac7]

This Neil Boortz' rant is nothing but divisive and inflammatory the plain unvarnished truth

and about time someone refuses to genuflect to the mooseslimes conditioning that forbids anyone to issue a word or phrase that may "offend" their sensitive psyches - they who cut off heads with bread knives and deliberately blow up innocent men, women and children.

People who are kow towing to this PC blackmail: "Say nothing to offend us or beware the consequences" are guilty of either ignorance or cowardice.

I actually had someone, the other day, in answer to my remark that a mooseslime imam had warned England that they would pay for the insult of Knighting the now Sir Ahmed Salman Rushdie, - this someone said: "Well, they should have known better."

(mouth dropped)

"Excuse me?"

"They should have known it would offend them and not have done it."

So we have come a long way towards 'learning our place' - and falling under control by intimidation.

I did mention that cutting off head and blowing up innocent people seemed a bit offensive in my way of thinking ...

[Redbob]

Neil’s right-on again; anything that irritates CAIR isfine with me!

[alarm rider]

Well, personally I would like to outlaw anything that would appease, explain or defend any cult, religion, group, committee, political party or individual that wants to kill me or harm my country.

The whole white flag thing makes me want to puke....

[yield 2 the right]

“Allah, save me from your people!” from Neal Boortz’s own website or it used to be on the website.

[Jorge]

It is too bad that you think Islam actually can co-exist with our society. It cannot.

Islam HAS co-existed with our society here in the States for MANY years.

Of course there are kooks who want to start a religious war, including those who like Neil Boortz who suggest we "eradicate" and entire religion.

It's amazing to me how people can blurt out such irresponsible statements without a clue as the to real long term consequences they could have on society.

[Sherman Logan]

I agree with you about not bowing to their definition of what we can and can’t say. If they’re offended, that’s tough. In America we have freedom of speech.

However, one of my best friends is a (Sufi) Muslim, who OBL would probably kill as a heretic in preference to you or me. He is perhaps the kindest, gentlest person I have ever known. He converted from Presbyterianism during the 60s because he thought Christianity was “too violent.” (Vietnam and all that.)

I’ve had a lot of fun ribbing him about frying pans and fires!

Lumping him in with OBL is comprehensively insane.

[NCLaw441]

How do the Muslims characterize Christians, I wonder? Do you think they call Christians simply another religion, on a par with their own? We both know the answer to that, so let’s not get too caught up in Bortz’s calling Islam a cult.

The larger point made by Boortz has not been taken up on this thread. Where is CAIR and the Islamic community when atrocities are committed in the name of Islam? They say little or nothing. Yet they get all exercised over a cartoon depicting Islam in a less than favorable light. Perhaps it IS time that we answer Islam tooth for tooth, eye for eye, life for life... At least they would understand that.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

Islam is a cult.

Islam is a cult.

Islam is a cult.

Sue us all, cultists.

[Jorge]

Well, personally I would like to outlaw anything that would appease, explain or defend any cult, religion, group, committee, political party or individual that wants to kill me or harm my country. The whole white flag thing makes me want to puke....

Since when does freedom of religion mean we have to wave a "white flag" in the face of those who want to kill us?

Isn't murder and terrorism against the law no matter what?

[admiral52]

Religion = Based on faith
Cult = Based on works

Anybody got something better?

[Pontiac]

The only rational definition of a cult is "a religion I don't like."

No a cult is a society based on the personality of a single individual.

For Islam that personality, that individual is Mohammad.

When Mohammad was asked by a follower how should I live my life? Mohammad responded after some thought “In god’s servant (Mohammad) you have the example of a godly life”.

Islam is a cult of personality.