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The "Evolving" Fred Thompson Saga
CBN ^ | 7/19/07 | David Brody

Posted on 07/19/2007 7:33:24 AM PDT by pissant

This may be the political version of Evolution. The New York Times is out this morning with a story about billing records that show Fred Thompson did indeed charge for his time while helping a pro-choice group. Details from the article below:

Billing records show that former Senator Fred Thompson spent nearly 20 hours working as a lobbyist on behalf of a group seeking to ease restrictive federal rules on abortion counseling in the 1990s, even though he recently said he did not recall doing any work for the organization.

According to records from Arent Fox, the law firm based in Washington where Mr. Thompson worked part-time from 1991 to 1994, he charged the organization, the National Family Planning and Reproductive Health Association, about $5,000 for work he did in 1991 and 1992. The records show that Mr. Thompson, a probable Republican candidate for president in 2008, spent much of that time in telephone conferences with the president of the group, and on three occasions he reported lobbying administration officials on its behalf.

Mr. Thompson's work for the family planning agency has become an issue because he is positioning himself as a faithful conservative who is opposed to abortion.

Read the whole article here. The Brody File has a call in to Thompson's people. Check back later for an update. Already, email is coming into The Brody File about the story. Here's one:

"The significance of this is not what Fred did 16 years ago. Had he been candid and honest, and explained himself, all would be well. The issue is that Fred lied for political expediency, and allowed others on his staff to do so on his behalf."

Lied may too strong a word. It seems like Thompson did what most politicians do. They beat around the bush and try to avoid an outright apology. Let's review shall we?

When this story first broke, Thompson's spokesman Mark Corallo said the following:

"Fred Thompson did not lobby for this group, period."

Then it became Thompson had "no recollection of doing any work on behalf of this group. He may have been consulted by one of the firm's partners who represented this group in 1991".

Days after the story broke, Thompson told radio talk show Sean Hannity:

"You need to separate a lawyer advocating a position from the position itself. They will probably come at me, in 35 years of law practice, with some people, I represented criminal defendants. I was a prosecutor. I had a general law practice. So that in and of itself doesn't mean anything anyway. … I'm not going to get down in the weeds with everything they dredge up over the next six months."

Thompson also sent in a column to the Powerline blog where he seemed to suggest he did some work:

"A lawyer who is a candidate or a prospective candidate for office finds himself in an interesting position because of the nature of the legal profession and the practice of law. … I've experienced another gambit of those schooled in the creative uses of law and politics: dredging up clients - or another lawyer's clients -that I may have represented or consulted with and then using the media to get me into a public debate as to what I may have done for them or said to them 15 or 20 years ago. Even if my memory serves me correctly, Even it would not be appropriate for a lawyer to make such comments."

Any way you slice it, what we have here is an "evolving story". This isn't really about the abortion issue. Because of Thompson's consistent pro-life record in the Senate, pro-family groups will probably give him a pass on that aspect. But Thompson needs to be careful. He wants people to see him as a plain spoken, tell it like it is southerner. But evolving stories like this are normally left to "inside the beltway" Washington insiders. For his campaign to be successful, he needs to be seen as a Washington outsider not just another politician who is spinning his way out of a mess.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: abortion; cbn; elections; fred; fredthompson; nfprha; wilma
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To: Alter Kaker

“but opposes a general ban on the practice. He’s been clear on that.”

No, that is precisely where you are muddying the waters. He has NOT been “clear” on that.

It is not clear if his opposition to the general ban is a result of his position on states rights/Federalism.


121 posted on 07/19/2007 8:47:18 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Amanda75

Larry Flynt said he has info on Republican Presidential Candidates? I just heard he had 2 more current Senators and 30 current Congressmen. I didn’t know they were Presidential Candidates, if they are, that will be BIG news. So lets see the only 3 congressmen running on the Republican side are Tancredo, Hunter, and Paul, the 2 Senators are McCain and Brownback, and former Senator Thompson.


122 posted on 07/19/2007 8:47:41 AM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: Isara; trisham

Isara, post #118 was intended for you too.


123 posted on 07/19/2007 8:47:57 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: xsmommy

We don’t know what Romney will do at the federal level. He has a history of being a maverick at Bain Capital. Thats why I am reluctantly leaning to him. Unlike other republicans, I could care less that he wears magic undergarments or believes that each representation of the trinity walks on this planet in physical form. LOL I want leadership detached from the Washington & I am willing to gamble given the dire state of affairs.


124 posted on 07/19/2007 8:49:27 AM PDT by SharpTalons
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To: Grunthor
You are either wrong, or a POS disgusting liar.

Wow, I say wonderful things about you.

On Foxsnooze’ Hannity and (I’m not ugly)Colmes Show, Fred said that he wants Roe overturned.

Great, but he's said he doesn't want it outlawed. Even if he's sincere and he wants Roe v. Wade overturned, abortion would still be legal in most of the country.

125 posted on 07/19/2007 8:50:17 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: xsmommy; dirtboy; Petronski; Clara Lou

Hey, and I like Fredheads, even the ones who hate me now. LOL


126 posted on 07/19/2007 8:50:23 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: RockinRight
You beat me to it, I can’t believe the people in this country who are so uninformed to think that lawyers advise people about the legal aspect of things that they don’t believe in or support in their personal beliefs, that€™s part of the “everyone is entitled to legal defense and advise.” Also I think there is a good case against the law firm for reveling attorney-client privilege. It certainly would be for the lawyer to reveal any thing they talked about, so in a way Fred Thompson’s hands and mouth are sealed by law, he can’t legally revel anything without the client’s written permission.
127 posted on 07/19/2007 8:51:16 AM PDT by lolhelp
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To: Alter Kaker
Even if he's sincere and he wants Roe v. Wade overturned, abortion would still be legal in most of the country.

You mean kinda how it is under Bush??

128 posted on 07/19/2007 8:52:49 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: SharpTalons

i am not interested in his magic undergutchies either, i just don’t trust in his conservatism. see, i knew you were capable of real debate and could rise above the weenieman’s gluehorse BS that is oh so juvenile : )


129 posted on 07/19/2007 8:53:57 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: pissant

He did not have billing records that showed he did work that kept open a savings and loan that ultimately cost the taxpayers 48 million. These people must really be afraid of Fred.

Madison Guaranty should have been shut down. A Clinton appointed commissioner kept it open because of the plan created by the Clintons. It stayed open long enough to cost us a huge amound of additonal taxpayer money in the bailout.


130 posted on 07/19/2007 8:54:31 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Alter Kaker
And why would you not agree that he's opposed banning abortion, when he's said as much repeatedly? It's a fact that Thompson has supported some restrictions on abortion (like banning partial birth abortion) but opposes a general ban on the practice. He's been clear on that.

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Your quotes range in date from 1993 to 1997. Thompson's conversion to being pro-life, while possibly evolving during that time, may be finally subsequent to that.

131 posted on 07/19/2007 8:54:57 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: pissant
All this is already all over the MSM and the conservative MSM. Having freepers hash out its significance is not giving Hillary a thing.

The way you comment after the article does.

132 posted on 07/19/2007 8:56:15 AM PDT by Isara
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To: pissant
Gotta expose the tapdancing.

It's a calling, isn't it?

133 posted on 07/19/2007 8:57:37 AM PDT by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: trisham
Your quotes range in date from 1993 to 1997. Thompson's conversion to being pro-life, while possibly evolving during that time, may be finally subsequent to that.

Ok, I can accept that -- but Thompson really needs to talk about this more candidly and clarify the evolution of his positions, because it's definitely not been explained adequately to date.

134 posted on 07/19/2007 8:57:45 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
Even if he's sincere and he wants Roe v. Wade overturned, abortion would still be legal in most of the country.

Overturning Roe v. Wade should not be downplayed, even though abortion would be legal in most states. That would be a huge hit to the morale of the pro-aborts, who saw Roe v. Wade as galvanizing the permanant "right" to abortion in the US.

135 posted on 07/19/2007 8:58:07 AM PDT by GCC Catholic (Sour grapes make terrible whine.)
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To: RockinRight
You mean kinda how it is under Bush??

Bush is at least fighting the status quo on abortion. I'm not sure Fred would.

136 posted on 07/19/2007 8:59:22 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

He would and you know it. Stop projecting.


137 posted on 07/19/2007 9:00:02 AM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: Alter Kaker
Ok, I can accept that -- but Thompson really needs to talk about this more candidly and clarify the evolution of his positions, because it's definitely not been explained adequately to date.

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I think he will. This is an important issue to many of us.

138 posted on 07/19/2007 9:00:06 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Amanda75
Come on folks, if he picks conserv. judges, what does his position on this matter, we need someone strong on defense NOW and nothing else matters.

Assuming your premise is true, let's elect a candidate who will deport illegals and build the fence. Any candidate who won't commit to that can't claim to be strong on defense. Of course, it isn't. While we have to defend the nation and beat back the Mohammedans we cannot degenerate into just another atheist/marxist/socialist hellhole in the process. If we do, that will be one of the hollowest military victories of all time.
139 posted on 07/19/2007 9:02:26 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Bryan24
A lobbyist is an advocate.

So is a lawyer.

140 posted on 07/19/2007 9:02:45 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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