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Landmark warrant ruling stuns border guards[Canada](Obtain warrant to search suspicious vehicle)
Globe and Mail ^ | 18 July 2007 | ROD MICKLEBURGH

Posted on 07/18/2007 8:17:34 AM PDT by BGHater

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1 posted on 07/18/2007 8:17:38 AM PDT by BGHater
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Chalk up one more for the terror community! Not only is canada flushing thousands of them into their country, now no one can look sideways at them. Well, I guess that makes up for sending the Van Doos to Afghanistan, doesn’t it.


2 posted on 07/18/2007 8:19:51 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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Does that mean I can take a gun into Canada if there’s a traffic jam on a hot day and I’m dizzy from sitting out there on the Peace Bridge for hours and hours.


3 posted on 07/18/2007 8:20:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BGHater

Sounds like someone missed the story about the alert border guard who prevented the LAX millenium bombing at our side of the border.

Good thing she didn’t need a warrant.


4 posted on 07/18/2007 8:22:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: BGHater

As un-American as it sounds I have always thought that you should be open to all searches as customs see fit regardless of the 4th amendment when you are entering the U.S irregardless of your citizenship.

This is a good way to allow smuggling to just be an open game.


5 posted on 07/18/2007 8:22:54 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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The ACLU must be having wet dreams about this. If only the U.S. courts would follow the enlightened Canadian courts. Drugs, terrorists, weapons, all coming in from Mexico. The North American Union - think of the possibilities!


6 posted on 07/18/2007 8:23:25 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: muawiyah

The last time I went to Canada by land, they were more interested in seizing any Frank Zappa recordings than anything else.


7 posted on 07/18/2007 8:24:48 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Ratzaz! There. I do give one about something.)
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To: muawiyah
"Does that mean I can take a gun into Canada if there’s a traffic jam on a hot day and I’m dizzy from sitting out there on the Peace Bridge for hours and hours."

According to the article - YES YES YES! As long as you don't put it into routine places like "car trunks and back seats."

8 posted on 07/18/2007 8:25:56 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
As un-American as it sounds I have always thought that you should be open to all searches as customs see fit regardless of the 4th amendment when you are entering the U.S irregardless of your citizenship.

Nothing un-American about it; it isn't 'unreasonable' to protect ourselves from undesirables, contraband etc..

9 posted on 07/18/2007 8:29:21 AM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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...Frank Zappa recordings...

Looking for copies of "Magdelana"? [There once was a man, a grubby little man who lived in Montreal...]

10 posted on 07/18/2007 8:32:35 AM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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Grab your guns
Grab your coke
Head for Canada
Go for broke!

Let's see now, passport. Check.
Guns. Check,
Coke. Check
Procedure for setting up off shore bank account while in Canada, Check!

Ready- Set - Goooooooooooooooooo!

11 posted on 07/18/2007 8:41:04 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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I always though the rule of ‘legal precedent’ was wrong wrong wrong to be used in ALL CASES. When a decision like this for one specific case means a new law (in effect) for ALL cases then the Judges has just legislated from the bench.

A judge is supposed to INTERPRET the law, not make it. Each case should stand on its own merits. The ruling for one case should not become the law for all cases.


12 posted on 07/18/2007 8:46:42 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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The solution is pretty simple...ask.

If permission to search is denied, return to America.


13 posted on 07/18/2007 8:49:53 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: Enterprise
If only the U.S. courts would follow the enlightened Canadian courts.
Don't worry, we will. If it's stupid, and international, our legal geniuses won't be able to resist it.
14 posted on 07/18/2007 8:50:38 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: BGHater

Insanity.


15 posted on 07/18/2007 8:55:23 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: BGHater

Judicial tyranny at its finest.


16 posted on 07/18/2007 8:58:12 AM PDT by ikka
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I agree, legal precedent should be used to fulfill abstract patterns and baseline constitutional rules but each case should have an independent ruling solely on that case’s merit. Make these judges earn the $100K plus they make, the interns do all the leg work anyway.


17 posted on 07/18/2007 9:07:26 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: BGHater
Here's how I see it. This judge was correct(if we were talking about the US constitution, I don't know about the Canadian Charter), she did NOT legislate, she cited precedent, just as a US judge would have done.

It should work this way, IMO: If you are wanting to come into the US, through Canada or Mexico, or from some other route(such as air travel)you should be asked to be searched, if you refuse to be searched, as is your right, then entry into the country is refused and you are sent back to where you came from. This way people who are suspected of illegal activity are not allowed through(at least at legal entry points!)and our rights are still intact.

18 posted on 07/18/2007 9:20:13 AM PDT by calex59
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... she did NOT legislate, she cited precedent, just as a US judge would have done

Citing precedent allows bad rulings to multiply

19 posted on 07/18/2007 9:32:09 AM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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Ping.


20 posted on 07/18/2007 9:35:47 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Today is a good day for working on some heavy praying. The world needs God to hear them.)
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